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MRAs are retarded. Hardline feminists are obnoxious but more correct than MRAs. Social justice is cool.I would say that this is flipped, SJW feminists are retarded and MRAs are obnoxious but more correct than SJW feminists. Social Justice is cool, in certain circumstances.
How are we supposed to do this without arguing?
like i said, book from 100+ years ago and using it as fact for anarcho-capitalist bullshit, completely ignoring evidence that contradicts their "beliefs." I'm not going to read an old ass book unless i have some sort of vested interest in it, otherwise i will have a very difficult time reading it and likely just put it down due to boredom. Modern articles/books are much much better.
Oh and I must say I categorically reject the notions that:
1) Old books/theories are rendered inapplicable by age
2) "modern" resources are inherently superior
Social justice is gheyrite
like i said, book from 100+ years ago and using it as fact for anarcho-capitalist bullshit, completely ignoring evidence that contradicts their "beliefs." I'm not going to read an old ass book unless i have some sort of vested interest in it, otherwise i will have a very difficult time reading it and likely just put it down due to boredom. Modern articles/books are much much better.Quite ignorant.
Never read marx either, it goes both ways. It's not that there is no valuable content within the books when surely there is. It's more that much of the content is rendered pointless as time went by and economics/communism (or whatever the subject) evolved to fit modern society better. It's also that i just really hate reading old books, especially old books on economics. Like seriously? You expect people to read a 200+ year old economics book...
yeah sven, i agree with you. It's mostly that i don't care enough.if you don't care enough then why are you on these threads?
because this is a thread about social justice and not economics...yeah sven, i agree with you. It's mostly that i don't care enough.if you don't care enough then why are you on these threads?
Never read marx either
Gulk you make no sense+1
What is not making sense? At this moment in time, i don't feel like reading some old ass economics book, It's that simple. I dislike it when people say "read this book" as evidence to support their claims.
Thank you for this.What is not making sense? At this moment in time, i don't feel like reading some old ass economics book, It's that simple. I dislike it when people say "read this book" as evidence to support their claims.
But quoting an "old ass economics book" is more valid than quoting nothing at all. What are your beliefs based on, if not on reading? Word of mouth? Movies? Comics? Your position is entirely invalidated if you have no basis for any of your arguments or beliefs. It's like the epitome of labeling yourself as something just so you can say you are that, without actually understanding the beliefs you support or their philosophical groundings.
What is not making sense? At this moment in time, i don't feel like reading some old ass economics book, It's that simple. I dislike it when people say "read this book" as evidence to support their claims.
Guys, i understand that they are using that as the basis of their argument, i get that. It's that they expect me to read the ENTIRE BOOK to understand their single comment on the internet. Instead of saying "read this book" you should QUOTE THE BOOK and say this book said this by this author at this time. Saying "just read this book" is a shitty citation.What is not making sense? At this moment in time, i don't feel like reading some old ass economics book, It's that simple. I dislike it when people say "read this book" as evidence to support their claims.But it is a source that can back their claims? When people make a claim its good to have evidence to back up your claim.
fair point, in that case it wasn't a straw man, but rather you didn't understand my argument. Anyways who cares...
MRAs are retarded. Hardline feminists are obnoxious but more correct than MRAs. Social justice is cool.
like i said, book from 100+ years ago and using it as fact for anarcho-capitalist bullshit, completely ignoring evidence that contradicts their "beliefs." I'm not going to read an old ass book unless i have some sort of vested interest in it, otherwise i will have a very difficult time reading it and likely just put it down due to boredom. Modern articles/books are much much better.
The western world has become a service based economy and has become too reliant on Asia now for our products we need to move some aspects on manufacturing back to the West.
Having free higher education means more people will have degrees which will mean that the value of a degree is reduced (as seen in the US and the UK)
We need to encourage people to go into trades and to look at vocational qualification's.
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Would it be social justice if we murdered Gluk?was waiting for someone to say this.
Would it be social justice if we murdered Gluk?
Would it be social justice if we murdered Gluk?Yes because i a misogynistic shitlord MRA rapist who supports the patriarchy.
okay, things like anarcho-capitalism and marxism, i will admit, I know little about. I defend marxism as a philosophy and read some works of certain marxists and anarchists (not a lot but some) but i don't support marxism as a literal way of running things. Social Justice however is different because it is a plague of autism that has engulfed the internet with raging retards who believe they are oppressed. You know what though nipple, instead of just insulting each other, lets make an honest debate out of it okay? You represent Modern Feminism, i will represent egalitarian/semi-MRA. I will let you begin with answer this simple question. Why should i be a feminist?
At the end of the debate, if i think i have lost, i will admit it and that is a promise.Would it be social justice if we murdered Gluk?Yes.
why not? if it's an intellectual debate between two opposing sides then why not? Outsiders may learn something and insiders may change opinions. At the end, we may come to an agreement. Who knows but i don't see why we can't have a debate.
why not? if it's an intellectual debate between two opposing sides then why not? Outsiders may learn something and insiders may change opinions. At the end, we may come to an agreement. Who knows but i don't see why we can't have a debate.Because it's
I'm not going to argue with a conservative who calls himself a leftist and doesn't even realize what's wrong with the shit he's spewing.Nipples down for da count
You win, I guess.
I'm not going to argue with a conservative who calls himself a leftist and doesn't even realize what's wrong with the shit he's spewing.wot, WOT! How am i a conservative for being a fucking egalitarian instead of a feminist, this is shows that you do not understand what you are talking about half the time.
You win, I guess.
Feminism is egalitarian. I bet you subscribe to Sargon of Akkad lol.funny thing is that i actually am, i watch him regularly. I also watch last week tonight regularly. I find them both to be wrong at times but they both present reasonable data at times which i can make my own conclusions. There is a youtuber called TL;DR who i much prefer over sargon of akkad. He goes much much MUCH more depth with statics and data, you can watch some of his videos and form your own opinion.
okay, things like anarcho-capitalism and marxism, i will admit, I know little about.Which is why you should stop posting anytime.
I defend marxism as a philosophy and read some works of certain marxists and anarchists (not a lot but some) but i don't support marxism as a literal way of running things. Social Justice however is different because it is a plague of autism that has engulfed the internet with raging retards who believe they are oppressed.
I'm not going to argue with a conservative who calls himself a leftist and doesn't even realize what's wrong with the shit he's spewing.
You win, I guess.
Because i understand the concept of egalitarianism in that are people are to be treated equal in the eyes of the law. I look at data and observable fact instead of "feelings" and make conclusions based on the evidence presented before me. Unlike you who buys into the "women are oppressed! we need change!" section of people when in actuality there are sections of the law in which women have the upper hand, specifically marriage and child care, which are not major issues but worth noting. To be a liberal, you do not have to be a feminist, at best you need to be an egalitarian but even that is not always true.
Your problem nipple is that you do not understand liberalism.
Btw, when have i ever said i was a liberal? I'm a socialist, democratic socialist to be specific.
Because i understand the concept of egalitarianism in that are people are to be treated equal in the eyes of the law. I look at data and observable fact instead of "feelings" and make conclusions based on the evidence presented before me. Unlike you who buys into the "women are oppressed! we need change!" section of people when in actuality there are sections of the law in which women have the upper hand, specifically marriage and child care, which are not major issues but worth noting. To be a liberal, you do not have to be a feminist, at best you need to be an egalitarian but even that is not always true.
Your problem nipple is that you do not understand liberalism.
Btw, when have i ever said i was a liberal? I'm a socialist, democratic socialist to be specific.
Jeus christ. You realize that fights for feminism extend outside of the first world? There is plenty of awful/unfair treatment of women in the world still. And besides that, disregarding the fact that western culture is historically patriarchal and pretty misogynistic and deprecating of women is pretty dumb, I'm not saying it isn't getting better, and it isn't much greater than it is before, but we are still breaking free of this, and there are still definitely signs of this. IF you were to actually take the time to talk to an actual woman about these issues instead of cherry picking radical feminist bullshit on the internet and then making your own radical claims based off that you might have a different viewpoint.
When people think the world will ever be equal lol
Thats like people who campaign for the UK parliament to be 50% of each gender and made up equal number of minorities.
You should just read books in general because they're good for you. From what you're saying it seems like you don't read much of anything at all, besides shitty teen fantasy novels maybe.
It seems like your opinions are based on a heavily calculated balance between being as radical as possible while still staying within those socially acceptable political boundaries that won't get you cursed out or lynched. Essentially you just look like an edgy child who wants to say profound shit in history class to look cool.
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