The Scenario Wars | "What if" Wars : Japan vs China

[Ryner]

Ukraine vs. Russia in light of recent events.

[ClearlyInvsible]

Lol China? They won't want to do anything at all, their economy is most dependent on the American one and vice versa. They will keep quiet

As far as i know, they hold major part of US abroad debt, yea, dependant, sure.

And if America stopped using Chinese labour, their economy would go right into the tank.

US and China need each-other at this point.

[Karth]

Lol China? They won't want to do anything at all, their economy is most dependent on the American one and vice versa. They will keep quiet

As far as i know, they hold major part of US abroad debt, yea, dependant, sure.

Again, http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2012/01/22/china-is-175-6-dependent-on-the-u-s/

$272 Billion trade surplus. That's freaking insane.

[MapleSyrupSmugler]

Considering that Americans rank 2nd in the world for 'average body mass' (weight), I don't really believe that your quote is valid...

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What was I thinking... I should have known that the Historical Discussion is full of autistic people.

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[stylish]

Lol China? They won't want to do anything at all, their economy is most dependent on the American one and vice versa. They will keep quiet

Watch the news lad.

They just backed Russia in all of this, and it's quite obvious who'd they side with in a major conflict.

[Karth]

Lol China? They won't want to do anything at all, their economy is most dependent on the American one and vice versa. They will keep quiet

Watch the news lad.

They just backed Russia in all of this, and it's quite obvious who'd they side with in a major conflict.

I do watch the news, not the propaganda news, but the actual news.  And again, in a major conflict, they would not side with anyone.  Unless they want their entire economy to fall apart, therefore not being able to upkeep their entire military infrastructure.

[stylish]

Lol China? They won't want to do anything at all, their economy is most dependent on the American one and vice versa. They will keep quiet

Watch the news lad.

They just backed Russia in all of this, and it's quite obvious who'd they side with in a major conflict.

I do watch the news, not the propaganda news, but the actual news.  And again, in a major conflict, they would not side with anyone.  Unless they want their entire economy to fall apart, therefore not being able to upkeep their entire military infrastructure.

Not the Propaganda news? In that case you surely don't watch any of the major national tv networks over there, or any papers... mhm?

[Karth]

Where does it say they would back Russia if a major conflict erupted? lol

[stylish]

Where does it say they would back Russia if a major conflict erupted? lol

I didn't say that, again; read.

I was saying that they are backing them over the current strategy used by Russia and the occupation of the Crimea.

http://news.sky.com/story/1219922/russia-and-china-in-agreement-over-ukraine

[Brock]

Russia's army is not to great, the morale is ultra low due to the very strange Slavic hazing techniques, but Russia can still roll Uke over if they learned from Georgia. The only chance the clankers have against rf is to fight an unconventional war, and hold on until Russia nopes the fuck out of Ukraine. That is without NATO support. With NATO support, Russia would be decimated in a conventional war and would hopefully decide Crimea isn't worth going nuclear.

[Archduke Sven]

Morale in the Russian Ground Forces is actually really high. Fascist propaganda does wonders.

[William]

Knock yourselves out

[ClearlyInvsible]

Ukraine would be swamped still.

No doubt the Russians would suffer considerable casualties, but there's no way in hell I see a Ukrainian victory coming from this.

[Bruin]

This is a very tough question due to the fact Russia hasn't been in a real war since the Soviet Invasion on Afghanistan. It seemed like the Chechen wars in the early 1990's Russia didn't mobilize must of their troops like the Georgian-Russian Conflict in 2008. If THIS actually did happen I really don't know. NATO has supported a few wars where they just helped through Naval and Air i.e Libyan Civil War, and Kosovo War. And it helped very much, I think the Libyan Rebels would of lost if it wasn't for NATO. With Ukraine's population already cut in half with some supporting Ukraine and some supporting Russia it would be a very bloody war. I really don't want to go to war. I really hope in the future we could push this all aside and all work together North America, Europe, and Russia.

[Archduke Sven]

Russia's army is 2gud4 Ukraine.