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Community / Re: Help wanted for upcomming Napoleonic Wars patch

« on: December 09, 2017, 12:10:46 am »

Ah I see. Good to see you're still around kicking.

As for my 2 pennies, I can't recall all that well why the community went down again... But maybe it was due to some balancing patches that no one liked, and then also the revolution, combined with lack of update. Which of course as I understand is the reason why this is now going up, correct?

I would honestly try to put up new units and perhaps a new faction, haven't read olafson's post yet, but I think it'd be nice to see more variety and as well a chance to update the roster without changing multiple units at the same time. That's been annoying for a while.

edit: A new game mode might be far fetched, seeing how Iron Europe flopped due to the server demand stress it had.  Honestly can someone remind me why the whole thing went down?

wb, nice to see you again as well.

the game only really dropped off in the last year or so in pop in a real noticeable way.    It still has more players than holdfast.  the revolution thing was in the begging of 2013 and didn't kill the game. 

the new units we are adding add  more diversity in looks and maybe even gameplay.   any new units(from you, or others) will only add to it, which is nice. 

things are still being worked on, but we are trying to make the game run better than it was before.  We still have things to do and things to test.

Anyone mind telling me what this revolution thing was all about?

Once upon a time, it was 2013. Everyone got their panties due to a change in how the melee speed was being adjusted. Devs refused to change it, or something alike. People complained, they wanted to boycott. Didn't affect much, it ended up more being a meme in itself honestly.

It was more then just that  , I wasn't there but if you look up the older topics in the Forum/Website section, you'll find the dark side.

There's a lot of context missing in those posts, generally there were jokes that were jokes then. Some might see it as facts now when in those times it was more of a joke and troll. Yes there was some annoyances with the developers at that point in time, but I don't think that evolved to anything big afterwards.

Point me in the right direction if I'm wrong though!

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Community / Re: Recap

« on: December 09, 2017, 12:07:39 am »

It's hard to say what exactly made people drop the game, but I think it's the lack of updates and the fact that the DLC have been out for 5 soon 6 years people have gotten bored and moved on to other games. (I don't think the whole REVOLUTION saltiness had any major impact on the player count.)

Also welcome back glad I contacted you.

Nah, I agree with the fact the revolution did nothing. But I was wondering what exactly happened more or so, what became boring? The lack of maps, gameplay, the lack of updates in-general? Lack of response or any type of development within the community towards the game?

I mean NW was previously M&M and that has been going on for a while. So why just after so long?

I think that a lot of people get burnt out and take a break from the game for a while, which I myself have done several times, which reflects on the overall playercount. But I think a bigger problem for this DLC is the toxicity that has been slowly killing it, ever since it's start. Toxic people who have made the game less fun for others, I'm sure has been one of the main reasons that has discouraged several players from continuing to play NW, and further driving the playerbase down.

Oh, and also the lack of influx of new players. I don't think many people buy NW nowadays. Mount & Blade itself is quite an old game, so getting a new player is a rare occasion.

Can you explain how toxic it's getting?

"Oh, and also the lack of influx of new players. I don't think many people buy NW nowadays. Mount & Blade itself is quite an old game, so getting a new player is a rare occasion."
Very big point in that. I guess the game being the same has been getting old by itself as well eh? Maybe a new mechanic.... Hm....

the game needs e-sports

Explain?

I meant it semi-seriously. I've for example always admired what the Native community has done with their competitive side, and all the tournaments, leagues etc. It might be because the NW community is more toxic so we can't have nice things. Maybe it's because the Taleworlds guys are more involved with the Native side of things whereas FSE guys don't seem to do much with the competitive side here. Does native have a larger playerbase? Who knows.

Semi-seriously or not, no idea is a bad idea at this point
So you would suggest the game add some kind of competitiveness? How would you approach that?

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Community / Re: Recap

« on: December 09, 2017, 12:05:10 am »

I think that a lot of people get burnt out and take a break from the game for a while, which I myself have done several times, which reflects on the overall playercount. But I think a bigger problem for this DLC is the toxicity that has been slowly killing it, ever since it's start. Toxic people who have made the game less fun for others, I'm sure has been one of the main reasons that has discouraged several players from continuing to play NW, and further driving the playerbase down.

Oh, and also the lack of influx of new players. I don't think many people buy NW nowadays. Mount & Blade itself is quite an old game, so getting a new player is a rare occasion.

Can you explain how toxic it's getting?

"Oh, and also the lack of influx of new players. I don't think many people buy NW nowadays. Mount & Blade itself is quite an old game, so getting a new player is a rare occasion."
Very big point in that. I guess the game being the same has been getting old by itself as well eh? Maybe a new mechanic.... Hm....

the game needs e-sports

Explain?

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Community / Re: Recap

« on: December 09, 2017, 12:00:26 am »

This isn't the welcome back thread though... I just want to see what's going on....

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Community / Re: Help wanted for upcomming Napoleonic Wars patch

« on: December 08, 2017, 11:58:55 pm »

Ah I see. Good to see you're still around kicking.

As for my 2 pennies, I can't recall all that well why the community went down again... But maybe it was due to some balancing patches that no one liked, and then also the revolution, combined with lack of update. Which of course as I understand is the reason why this is now going up, correct?

I would honestly try to put up new units and perhaps a new faction, haven't read olafson's post yet, but I think it'd be nice to see more variety and as well a chance to update the roster without changing multiple units at the same time. That's been annoying for a while.

edit: A new game mode might be far fetched, seeing how Iron Europe flopped due to the server demand stress it had.  Honestly can someone remind me why the whole thing went down?

wb, nice to see you again as well.

the game only really dropped off in the last year or so in pop in a real noticeable way.    It still has more players than holdfast.  the revolution thing was in the begging of 2013 and didn't kill the game. 

the new units we are adding add  more diversity in looks and maybe even gameplay.   any new units(from you, or others) will only add to it, which is nice. 

things are still being worked on, but we are trying to make the game run better than it was before.  We still have things to do and things to test.

Anyone mind telling me what this revolution thing was all about?

Once upon a time, it was 2013. Everyone got their panties due to a change in how the melee speed was being adjusted. Devs refused to change it, or something alike. People complained, they wanted to boycott. Didn't affect much, it ended up more being a meme in itself honestly.

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Community / Re: Help wanted for upcomming Napoleonic Wars patch

« on: December 08, 2017, 11:53:08 pm »

Ah I see. Good to see you're still around kicking.

As for my 2 pennies, I can't recall all that well why the community went down again... But maybe it was due to some balancing patches that no one liked, and then also the revolution, combined with lack of update. Which of course as I understand is the reason why this is now going up, correct?

I would honestly try to put up new units and perhaps a new faction, haven't read olafson's post yet, but I think it'd be nice to see more variety and as well a chance to update the roster without changing multiple units at the same time. That's been annoying for a while.

edit: A new game mode might be far fetched, seeing how Iron Europe flopped due to the server demand stress it had.  Honestly can someone remind me why the whole thing went down?

wb, nice to see you again as well.

the game only really dropped off in the last year or so in pop in a real noticeable way.    It still has more players than holdfast.  the revolution thing was in the begging of 2013 and didn't kill the game. 

the new units we are adding add  more diversity in looks and maybe even gameplay.   any new units(from you, or others) will only add to it, which is nice. 

things are still being worked on, but we are trying to make the game run better than it was before.  We still have things to do and things to test.

Ah you're right, been trying to recap what's happened here: https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=37652.0;topicseen
incase anyone is interested in discussing a bit of a reflection on the current state of the game.

I think for modding, I honestly would just make the uniforms more independent of each other. I understand it's to save memory and space, plus to allow the engine to run smoother, but it has to be worked on. I don't know if Commander mode is still a thing, or if it even works properly at this moment. From my memory, last time it was buggy with units getting stuck or not firing. The lag from just the smoke and the lack of optimization from the engine has left me wondering if my system is just a toaster some times, is that still a problem?

I know this sounds dumb and has been mentioned but has melee been changed in any way? Usually developers constantly change the core aspect of the game to evolve the meta and keep players learning and entranced. Look at CSGO, DOTA, LoL, and really any game ever. I don't think it would hurt NW to change it slightly to force players to reinvent themselves.

As far as I know, not really. The melee I find has been the best melee I have found. Simple yet effective. I think if there were to be any changes to melee, I would look at the medieval game called Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Maybe something to look at or, perhaps the witcher for sword play maybe.

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Community / Recap

« on: December 08, 2017, 11:40:01 pm »

Hi everyone,

Pretty sure 80% of you don't know who I am. That's fine.
Been around since the beginning of the DLC launch, but I can't remember a single reason as to why the community slowly went down.

I'm interested in helping the developers by getting a recap of what went wrong and why. I'm also curious myself, cause I can honestly not remember anymore. This is meant as a serious thread, so I'd like to keep the thread a bit more serious and on the track (which would be a feet for some of you, but try).

As to the devs, I'm not trying to portray the whole situation in a bad light, just simply gathering a bit of an opinion on what happened during the past years that I've disappeared, but to also see if there's any potential reason for me to return to modding here again.

Let's start!

Things of note:

• The game is becoming old:

- Lack of update.
- No more fresh players.

• Toxicity may play a role: not that big of a role
• A new feature to help with competitive play: league board, look at other competitive games
• Forums Hypothesis: They aren't mentioned into the game that it exists. Most don't look at the forums after playing the game, which leads to the feeling that what they just played is all there is.

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The Mess Hall / Re: How famous is the person above you? Mk. 2

« on: December 08, 2017, 11:33:45 pm »

Man... I didn't know you were still here Sleek.

Sadly I can't remember you anymore that well... Just know you existed 3 years ago haha

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Community / Re: Help wanted for upcomming Napoleonic Wars patch

« on: December 08, 2017, 11:30:20 pm »

Spoiler

[close]

We need more of things like this, not silly fixes, why not add new factions, this is Napoelons war! I will not accept the fact a shitty game like Holdfast who rips from NW is besting us. I demand more historical factions, hell. You should even add the Ottomans Camel riders and Swordsmen! Make it more diverse damn it!

Clearly you aren't up to speed with things, they are adding another unknown faction,2 gamemodes and Olaf has made a thread on newer units.

Where was this?

well, depends on what part you are referring to, but the unit post is here.

https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=37622.msg1632622#msg1632622

Ah I see. Good to see you're still around kicking.

As for my 2 pennies, I can't recall all that well why the community went down again... But maybe it was due to some balancing patches that no one liked, and then also the revolution, combined with lack of update. Which of course as I understand is the reason why this is now going up, correct?

I would honestly try to put up new units and perhaps a new faction, haven't read olafson's post yet, but I think it'd be nice to see more variety and as well a chance to update the roster without changing multiple units at the same time. That's been annoying for a while.

edit: A new game mode might be far fetched, seeing how Iron Europe flopped due to the server demand stress it had.  Honestly can someone remind me why the whole thing went down?

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Skins & OSP Resources / Re: New units for the NW patch.

« on: December 08, 2017, 11:24:24 pm »

I give my blessings to he who wishes to use the skins in this game.

Ok....

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Community / Re: Help wanted for upcomming Napoleonic Wars patch

« on: December 08, 2017, 11:22:12 pm »

Spoiler

[close]

We need more of things like this, not silly fixes, why not add new factions, this is Napoelons war! I will not accept the fact a shitty game like Holdfast who rips from NW is besting us. I demand more historical factions, hell. You should even add the Ottomans Camel riders and Swordsmen! Make it more diverse damn it!

Clearly you aren't up to speed with things, they are adding another unknown faction,2 gamemodes and Olaf has made a thread on newer units.

Where was this?

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Community / Re: Help wanted for upcomming Napoleonic Wars patch

« on: December 08, 2017, 11:13:53 pm »

Ignore the glossiness.... It's a rendering thing in Wings3d... Having moved to 3dsmax, can confirm it doesn't look like that in-game.

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Historical Discussion / Re: Which nations are the worst at fighting wars?

« on: December 08, 2017, 11:12:30 pm »

Guys it's clearly the Netherlands. They got constantly stepped on by other european nations, sometimes they didn't even know it until their face was looking at a bayonet

Duuring is gonna kill me

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The Mess Hall / Re: How famous is the person above you? Mk. 2

« on: December 08, 2017, 10:45:45 pm »

Who?

(As for the next person, don't bother. I'm ancient)

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Skins & OSP Resources / Re: New units for the NW patch.

« on: December 08, 2017, 10:36:07 pm »

I give my blessings to he who wishes to use the skins in this game.