The General Political Thread

[Karth]

So genuine question Karth. What is it that every other politician has access to that Trump didn't? I would like to understand it in more detail.

And Fraudbear can you please explain to me your perfect society. I would like to understand how it would work and actually create a functioning economy.

Trump never even had any security clearances prior to office, or access to Congressional Budget Office reports.  CBO has the top analysts who have no political agenda, and map out the consequences for any economic/financial decision on an upcoming bill, along with analytics on a variety of economic issues.  These are mostly not made available public, politicians have direct access to them.  The next big thing is everything else that comes with an SC, from nuclear weapons info to foreign affairs.  Literally probably thousands of hours of information.  Actually pretty sure there was a documentary on 60 minutes or somewhere that explains all this lol
Anyways, morale is, prior to obtaining office Trump was as normal as us, in regards to the access to government information and knowledge he had.  After gaining office, he has had exposure and continues to gain exposure to everything having to do with the government, and unlike other politicians who are familiar with this, he was not.

[StevenChilton]

'socialism/communism works'

In other news they're now eating rabbits in Venezuela.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41265474

rabbits are good

The Latin American country who has an economy of a 70% in the private sector which operates under a market and has entered a crisis due to the global price of oil falling drastically and having no way to make up for it because it made zero efforts to industriaize in the entire century it has been a client state to Western powers...is a failure of Socialism.

Sasuga, Chilton-san!

Oh please, they dabbled with socialism and paid for it via a historically high oil price. When things were going well all the usual leftie idiots had no problem pointing at Venezuela as an example of socialism working in practice. Now they're silent.
Venezuela may have a significant private sector compared to somewhere like Cuba but it also has, among other things, terrible property rights, low levels of business and financial freedom & a highly regulated labour market after 17 years of Chavism.

Also it's not that much of a market economy given it has extensive price and currency controls. In Venezuela the government literally tells supermarkets what price they're allowed to sell at. Firms are banned from having profit margins above 30%. You do realise Venezuela is dealing with mass inflation and shortages as a result of all that? But please, tell me how free market economics are to blame here. The only reason a lot of Venezuelans haven't already starved to death is because of free market capitalism operating via the black market.

[Edwin]

Another terror attack in London, though you've probably already heard about it by now.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/15/british-police-respond-to-reports-explosion-at-london-subway-station.html

(Had to change the link because the BBC are withholding information, yet again.)

[Marceaux]

Why dedicate yourself to one political ideology? When life constantly demands a balance of forces and opinions. There must be middle ground yet to be discovered/created so why claim to support these ideas that are so primitive instead of looking for something new and better.

[Theodin]

Why dedicate yourself to one political ideology? When life constantly demands a balance of forces and opinions. There must be middle ground yet to be discovered/created so why claim to support these ideas that are so primitive instead of looking for something new and better.

This is rich coming from you

[Marceaux]

Why dedicate yourself to one political ideology? When life constantly demands a balance of forces and opinions. There must be middle ground yet to be discovered/created so why claim to support these ideas that are so primitive instead of looking for something new and better.

This is rich coming from you

Its a legitimate question that i hope everyone asks themselves.

[Karth]

lol sanders pushing for single payer health when Trump is in power

[Duuring]

Yeah, because in normal democracies everybody in the opposition just stops working until next election day.

[Karth]

Yeah, because in normal democracies everybody in the opposition just stops working until next election day.

He's not working though, his own state passed the single payer system then they realized they didn't have money to pay for it so it failed lmao

[Edwin]

In other news the UK threat level has been raised to Part & Parcel™ yet again.


I should probably have posted that in UK politics but whatever.

[Duuring]

Please continue discussing recent events, not historical ideologies.

'Discussions' on political theories always end up with someone defending one totalitarian shit regime that killed millions or the other. Sadly for those people, this forum isn't called '/pol' or '/shitideas'. You are free to be as much a dipshit as you want in your own personal life, but this forum is not and will never be a place for you to discuss how much you love being a dipshit.

Discuss recent politics, or discuss ideology within the modern context. Please do not think you can convince me how wrong I am in taking this discussion, you know very well that's a lost cause. To give everybody time to reflect on that, I'll lock this thread for a day.

[BabyJesus]

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/977913-watch-reaction-un-members-trump-savages-socialism-communism-un-wow/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Shared&utm_campaign=ods&utm_term=DW

[Toffee]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

[StevenChilton]

Please continue discussing recent events, not historical ideologies.

'Discussions' on political theories always end up with someone defending one totalitarian shit regime that killed millions or the other. Sadly for those people, this forum isn't called '/pol' or '/shitideas'. You are free to be as much a dipshit as you want in your own personal life, but this forum is not and will never be a place for you to discuss how much you love being a dipshit.

Discuss recent politics, or discuss ideology within the modern context. Please do not think you can convince me how wrong I am in taking this discussion, you know very well that's a lost cause. To give everybody time to reflect on that, I'll lock this thread for a day.

Lol, the day after Duuring posts that Trump kicks off a storm in the UN by talking about the historical failure of socialism.

[Riddlez]

Trump = Duuring confirmed