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[Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« on: June 13, 2013, 10:57:51 am »
Due to Jocam "leaving" the community as such, I have decided to continue this.

If you have ranks, please DO post them as a reply, I will then try to add them ASAP.

If you have any ranks to add, please post like this

Spoiler
Code
[spoiler]*Rank* [Colonel]
*Rank* [Lieutenant Colonel]
*Rank* [Major]
*Rank* [Captain]
*Rank* [First Lieutenant]
*Rank* [Second Lieutenant]

*Rank* [Seargent Major]
*Rank* [Sergeant]
*Rank* [Corporal First Class]
*Rank* [Corporal]
*Rank* [Lance Corporal]

*Rank* [Private][/spoiler]
[close]

This way, it is way easier to edit entire ranking stuff, without the need for me to do it all by myself. You are not required to do this, but it is easier for me.

Single rank changes may be posted as a normal reply, without then need to use mentioned format.


The format above is just a standard table, if there are exeptions (such as French Major, which is higher than Lt-Col) you may edit them yourself.







Major Factions

Britain
Foot
Spoiler
Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
Major
Captain
Lieutenant
Ensign

Regimental Serjeant Major
Serjeant Major
Colour Serjeant
Serjeant
Corporal

Private
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
Major
Captain
Lieutenant
(Ensign)

Regimental Serjeant Major
Serjeant Major
Colour Serjeant
Serjeant
Corporal
Chosen Man

Riflemen
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
Colonel
Lieutenant-Colonel
Major
Captain
Lieutenant
Cornet

Regimental Serjeant-Major (After 1813)
(Troop) Serjeant-Major (Troop after 1813)
Serjeant
Corporal

Trooper
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
Major
Captain
Lieutenant

Battery Serjeant
Serjeant
Bombardier
Lance Bombardier

Cannoneer
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
-
[close]

France
Foot
Spoiler
Colonel [Colonel]
Major [Lieutenant Colonel]
Chef de Bataillon [Major]
Capitaine [Captain]
Lieutenant [First Lieutenant]
Sous Lieutenant [Second Lieutenant]

Sergent-Major [Seargent Major]
Sergent [Seargent]
Caporal-Fourrier [Corporal First Class]
Caporal [Corporal]

Soldat [Private]
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
Colonel [Colonel]
Major[Lieutenant Colonel]
Chef de Bataillon [Major]
Capitaine [Captain]
Lieutenant [First Lieutenant]
Sous Lieutenant [Second Lieutenant]

Sergent-Major [Seargent Major]
Sergent [Seargent]
Caporal-Fourrier [Corporal First Class]
Caporal [Corporal]

Soldat [Private]
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
Colonel [Colonel]
Major/[Lieutenant Colonel]
Chef d'Escadron [Major]
Capitaine [Captain]
Lieutenant [First Lieutenant]
Sous Lieutenant [Second Lieutenant]

Marechal-des-logis Chef[Seargent Major]
Marechal-des-logis [Seargent]
Brigadier-Fourrier [Corporal First Class]
Brigadier[Corporal]

Cavalier [Private]
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
Colonel [Colonel]
Major [Lieutenant Colonel]
Chef de Bataillon [Major]
Capitaine [Captain]
Lieutenant [First Lieutenant]
Sous Lieutenant [Second Lieutenant]

Sergent-Major [Seargent Major]
Sergent [Seargent]
Caporal-Fourrier [Corporal First Class]
Caporal [Corporal]

Canonnier de première classe
[Private First class]
Canonnier de deuxième classe[Private Second Class]
[close]
Naval
Spoiler

Capitaine de Vaisseau [Commodore]
Capitaine de Frégate [Captain]
Lieutenant de Vaisseau [Lieutenant]

Sous-Lieutenant [2nd Lieutenant]
Premiere-Maître [Midshipman?]
Maître [Bosum?]

Second-Maître [Gunner]

Matelot Breveté [Private First Class]
Matelot [Private]
[close]

Prussia
Foot
Spoiler
Oberst [Colonel]
Oberstleutnant[Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Hauptmann/Capitaine(Kapitän) [Captain]
Oberleutnant/Premierlieutenant [First Lieutenant]
Leutnant/Secondelieutenant [Second Lieutenant]
Fähnrich [Ensign/Colourseargent]

Feldwebel [Seargent]
Unteroffizier/Corporal [Corporal]

Gefreiter [Private First Class]
Musketier/Füsilier/Grenadier/Gemeiner/Krümper/Wehrmann (Depending on Troopkind)[Private]
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
Oberst [Colonel]
Oberstleutnant [Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Hauptmann/Capitaine [Captain]
Oberleutnant/Premierlieutenant [First Lieutenant]
Leutnant/Secondelieutenant [Second Lieutenant]
Fähnrich [Ensign/Colourseargent]

Feldwebel [Seargent]
Oberjäger [Corporal]

Gefreiter [Private First Class]
Jäger [Private]
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
Oberst [Colonel]
Oberstleutnant [Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Rittmeister [Captain]
Oberleutnant/Premierlieutenant [First Lieutenant]
Leutnant/Secondelieutenant [Second Lieutenant]
Fähnrich/Kornett [Ensign/Colourseargent]

Wachtmeister [Seargent]
Unteroffizier/Corporal [Corporal]

Gefreiter [Private First Class]
Reiter [Private]
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
Oberst [Colonel]
Oberstleutnant [Lieutenant Colonel]
Feuerwerksmeister [Major]
Feuerwerkshauptmann/Rittmeister [Captain]
Oberfeuerwerksleutnant/Premierlieutenant [First Lieutenant]
Feruerwerksleutnant/Secondelieutenant [Second Lieutenant]
Stückjunker [Ensign/Colourseargent]

Oberfeuerwerker/ [Seargent]
Unteroffizier/Corporal [Corporal]

Bombardier [Private First Class]
Kanonier [Private]
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
-
[close]

Austria
Foot
Spoiler
Oberst [Colonel]
Oberstlieutnant[Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Hauptmann [Captain]
Oberlieutenant [First Lieutenant]
Unterlieutenant [Second Lieutenant]
Fähnrich [Ensign/Colourseargent]

Feldwebel/Wachtmeister [Seargent]
Corporal/Korporal [Corporal]

Gefreiter [Private Frist Class]
Musketier/Füsilier/Grenadier/Gemeiner (Depending on Troopkind)[Private]
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
Oberst [Colonel]
Oberstlieutnant[Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Hauptmann [Captain]
Oberlieutnant [First Lieutenant]
Unterileutenant [Second Lieutenant]
Fähnrich [Ensign/Colourseargent]

Oberjäger [Seargent]
Corporal/Korporal/Zugführer [Corporal]

Gefreiter [Private First Class]
Jäger [Private]
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
Oberst [Colonel]
Oberstleutnant[Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Rittmeister [Captain]
Oberlieutnant [First Lieutenant]
Unterlieutenant [Second Lieutenant]
Fähnrich/Kornett [Ensign/Colourseargent]

Feldwebel/Wachtmeister [Seargent]
Corporal/Korporal [Corporal]
Gefreiter [Lance Corporal]

Reiter [Private]
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
Oberst [Colonel]
Oberstleutnant[Lieutenant Colonel]
Feuerwerksmeister/Major [Major]
Feuerwerkshauptmann [Captain]
Feurerwerksoberleutnant [First Lieutenant]
Feuerwerksleutnant [Second Lieutenant]
Fähnrich [Ensign/Coloursargeant]

Feldwebel/Wachtmeister/Oberfeuerwerker [Seargent]
Corporal/Korporal/Feuerwerker [Corporal]
Bombardier [Lance Corporal]

Kanonier [Private]
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
Prussia didn't have a navy
[close]

Russia
Foot
Spoiler
Полковник - Polkovnik[Colonel]
Подполковник - Podpolkovnik[Lieutenant Colonel]
Майор - Mayor [Major]
Капитан - Kapitan [Captain]
Штабс-капитан - Shtabs-Kapitan["Staffcaptain"]
Поручик - Poruchik [First Lieutenant]
Подпоручик - Podporuchik [Second Lieutenant]
Прапорщик - Praporshchik [Propably Ensign]

Фельдфебель - Feldfebel [Seargent First Class]
Портупей-прапорщик - Portupey-praporshchik [Seargent Second Class]
Подпрапорщик - Podpraporshchik [Seargent Third Class]
Младший унтер-офицер - Mladshiy Unter-ofitser [Corporal]

Рядовой - Ryadovoy [Private]
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
Spoiler
Полковник - Polkovnik[Colonel]
Подполковник - Podpolkovnik[Lieutenant Colonel]
Майор - Mayor [Major]
Капитан - Kapitan [Captain]
Штабс-капитан - Shtabs-Kapitan["Staffcaptain"]
Поручик - Poruchik [First Lieutenant]
Подпоручик - Podporuchik [Second Lieutenant]
Прапорщик - Praporshchik [Propably Ensign)]

Фельдфебель - Feldfebel [Seargent First Class]
Портупей-прапорщик - Portupey-praporshchik [Seargent Second Class]
Подпрапорщик - Podpraporshchik [Seargent Third Class]
Младший унтер-офицер - Mladshiy Unter-ofitser [Corporal]

Рядовой - Ryadovoy [Private]
[close]
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
Полковник - Polkovnik[Colonel]
Подполковник - Podpolkovnik[Lieutenant Colonel]
Майор - Mayor [Major]
Ротмистр - Rotmistr [Captain]
Штаб-ротмистр - Shtab-Rotmistr ["Staffcaptain"]
Поручик - Poruchik [First Lieutenant]
Подпоручик - Podporuchik [Second Lieutenant]
Корнет - Kornet [Kornett]

Вахмистр - Vakhmistr [Seargent First Class]
Эстандарт-юнкер - Estandart-yunker [Colour Seargent (?)]
Подпрапорщик - Podpraporshchik [Seargent Third Class]
Младший унтер-офицер - Mladshiy Unter-ofitser [Corporal]

Рядовой - Ryadovoy [Private]
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
Полковник - Polkovnik[Colonel]
Подполковник - Podpolkovnik[Lieutenant Colonel]
Майор - Mayor [Major]
Капитан - Kapitan [Captain]
Штабс-капитан - Shtabs-Kapitan["Staffcaptain"]
Поручик - Poruchik [First Lieutenant]
Подпоручик - Podporuchik [Second Lieutenant]
Прапорщик - Praporshchik [Ensign]

Фельдфебель - Feldfebel [Seargent First Class]
Портупей-юнкер - Portupey-yunker [Seargent Second Class]
Подпрапорщик - Podpraporshchik [Seargent Third Class]
Фейерверкер - Feyyerverker [Corporal]

Рядовой - Ryadovoy [Private]
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
Rankers
Матрос 2 статьи - Matros 2 stati - Seaman 2nd Class
Матрос 1 статьи - Matros 1 stati - Seaman 1st Class

Under-Officers
Квартирмейстер - Kvartirmeyster - Quartermaster
Боцманмат - Botsmanmat - Botswain's Mate
Боцман - Botsman - Botswain
Кондуктор - Konduktor - Conductor

Over-Officers
Мичман - Michman - Midshipman
Лейтенант - Leytenant - Lieutenant

Staff-Officers
Капитан-лейтенант - Kapitan-Leytenant - Captain-Lieutenant
Капитан 2 ранга - Kapitan 2 ranga - Captain of the 2nd Rank
Капитан 1 ранга - Kapitan 1 ranga - Captain of the 1st Rank*
Капитан-командор - Kapitan-Komandor - Captain-Commander
Контр-адмирал - Kontr-Admiral - Counter-Admiral (Rear Admiral)
Вице-адмирал - Vitse-Admiral - Vice-Admiral
Адмирал - Admiral - Admiral  (Durr Hurr)
Генерал-адмирал - General-Admiral - General-Admiral
[close]







Minor Nations
Sweden
Foot
Spoiler
Överste [Colonel]
Överstelöjtnant [Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Kapten [Captain]
Kaptenlöjtnant [Captain-Lieutenant]
Löjtnant [Lieutenant]
Fänrik [Ensign]

Fältväbel[Seargent Major]
Fanjunkare [Colour Seargent]
Sergeant [Seargent]
(Rustmästare) [?]
Korpral [Corporal]
Vicekorpral [Lance Corporal]

Menig[Private]
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
Överste [Colonel]
Överstelöjtnant [Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Kapten [Captain]
Kaptenlöjtnant [Captain-Lieutenant]
Löjtnant [Lieutenant]
Fänrik [Ensign]

Fältväbel[Seargent Major]
Fanjunkare [Colour Seargent]
Sergeant [Seargent]
(Rustmästare) [?]
Korpral [Corporal]
Vicekorpral [Lance Corporal]

Menig[Private]
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
Överste [Colonel]
Överstelöjtnant [Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Ryttmästare [Cavalry Captain]
Ryttmästarelöjtnant [Captain-Lieutenant]
Löjtnant [Lieutenant]
Kornett [Ensign]

Fältväbel[Seargent Major]
Fanjunkare [Colour Seargent]
Sergeant [Seargent]
Korpral [Corporal]
Vicekorpral [Lance Corporal]

Menig[Private]
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
Översten vid artilleriet [Colonel of the Artillery]   
Överstelöjtnant [Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Kapten [Captain]
Löjtnant [Lieutenant]
Fänrik [Ensign]

Fältväbel [Sergeant Major]
Styckjunkare [Color Sergeant]
Sergeant [Sergeant]
Konstapel    [Corporal]
Lärkonstapel [Lance Corporal]

Hantlangare [Private]
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
Överste - Colonel
Överstelöjtnant - Lieutenant Colonel
Örlogskapten - Major
Kapten - Captain
Kaptenlöjtnant - Captainlieutenant
Löjtnant - Lieutenant
Fänrik - Ensign

Fältväbel - Sergeant Major
Sergeant - Sergeant
Högbåtsman - ?
Korpral - Corporal
Vicekopral - Lance Corporal

Menig / Matros - Private / Seaman
[close]

The Netherlands
Foot
Spoiler
Kolonel - Colonel
Luitenant-Kolonel - Lieutenant Colonel
Majoor - Major
Kapitein - Captain
Adjudant-Majoor - ???
Luitenant - Lieutenant
Tweede Luitenant - 2nd Lieutenant
Vaandrig - Ensign

Adjudant sous Officier - (Battalion) Sergeant-Major
Sergeant-Majoor - (Company) Sergeant-Major
Sergeant - Sergeant
Fourrier - Quartermaster Corporal
Korporaal - Corporal

Soldaat/Fusilier/Grenadier - Private
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
Kolonel - Colonel
Luitenant-Kolonel - Lieutenant Colonel
Majoor - Major
Kapitein - Captain
Adjudant-Majoor - ???
Luitenant - Lieutenant
Tweede Luitenant - 2nd Lieutenant

Adjudant sous Officier - (Battalion) Sergeant-Major
Sergeant-Majoor - (Company) Sergeant-Major
Sergeant - Sergeant
Fourrier - QuaterMaster Corporal
Korporaal - Corporal

Jager - Private
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
Kolonel - Colonel
Luitenant-Kolonel - Lieutenant Colonel
Majoor - Major
Ritmeester - Captain
Adjudant-Majoor - ???
Luitenant - Lieutenant
Tweede Luitenant - 2nd Lieutenant

Adjudant sous Officier - (Battalion) Sergeant-Major
Opper-Wachtmeester - Staff Sergeant
Wachtmeester - Sergeant
Korporaal - Corporal

Huzaar/Karabinier/Kurrasier/Lancier etc - Private
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
Kolonel - Colonel
Luitenant-Kolonel - Lieutenant Colonel
Majoor - Major
Kapitein - Captain
Adjudant-Majoor - ???
Luitenant - Lieutenant
Tweede -Luitenant - 2nd Lieutenant

Adjudant Sous-Officier - (Battalion) Sergeant Major
Bombardier-Majoor - Company Sergeant-Major
Bombardier- Sergeant
Korporaal - Corporal

Kannonier - Private
[close]
Naval
Spoiler

Kolonel - Colonel
Luitenant-Kolonel - Lieutenant Colonel
Majoor - Major
Kapitein - Captain
1ste Luitenant - 1st Lieutenant
2de Luitenant - 2nd Lieutenant
Sergeant - Sergeant
Korporaal - Corporal
Marinier - Marine (Pvt)
Matroos - Sailor (Rct)
[close]

Portugal
Foot
Spoiler
Coronel [Colonel]
Tenente-coronel [Lieutenant Colonel]
Sargento-mor Major [Major]
Capitão [Captain]
1e Tenente [First Lieutenant]
Alferes [Second Lieutenant]
Cadete [Officer Cadet]

Quartel-Mestre [Sergeant-Major]
Primeiro-Sargento [First Sergeant/Quartermaster Sergeant]
Segundo Sargento [Second Sergeant/Staff Sergeant]
Furriel [Third Sergeant/Sergeant]
Cabo [Corporal]
Anspeçada [Lance Corporal]

Soldado [Private]
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
Coronel - Colonel
Tenente-Coronel - Lieutenant Colonel
Major - Major
Capitão - Captain
Primeiro-Tenente - Lieutenant
Alferes  - Ensign

Primeiro-Sargento - First Sergeant
Segundo-Sargento - Second Sergeant
Furriel - Third Sergeant
Cabo - Corporal

Anspeçada - Lance Corporal
Soldado - Private
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
-
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
-
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
-
[close]

Poland
Foot
Spoiler
Pułkownik [Colonel]
Podpułkownik [Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Kapitan [Captain]
Porucznik [Lieutnenant]
Podporucznik [Second Lieutnenant]
Chorąży [Ensign]

Starszy Sierżant [Staff Sergeant]
Sierżant [Sergeant]
Starzy Kapral [Corporal]
Kapral [Lance Corporal]

Szeregowy [Private]
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
-
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
-
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
-
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
-
[close]

Denmark
Foot
Spoiler
Oberst [Colonel]
Oberstløjtnant  [Lieutenant Colonel]
Major [Major]
Kaptajn [Captain]
Løjtnant [Lieutenant]
Sekondløjtnant [2nd Lieutenant]

Oversergent [Staff Sergeant]
Sergent [Sergeant]
Korporal [Corporal]
Overkonstabel [Lance Corporal]

Menig [Private]
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
-
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
-
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
-
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
-
[close]

Italy
Foot
Spoiler
Colonnello - Colonel
Tenente Colonello - Lieutenant Colonel
Maggiore - Major
Primo Capitano - First Captain
Capitano - Captain
Tenente - Lieutenant
Sottotenente - Second Lieutnenant

Sergente Maggiore - Sergeant Major
Sergente - Sergeant
Caporalmaggiore - Corporal Major
Caporale - Corporal

Soldato - Private
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
-
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
-
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
-
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
-
[close]
Spain
Foot
Spoiler
Coronel - Colonel
Teniente Coronel - Lieutenant Colonel
Comandante - Major
Capitan - Captain
Teniente - Lieutenant
Alferez - Ensign
Subteniente - Sublieutenant

Sargento Primero - Staff Sergeant
Sargento - Sergeant
Cabo Mayor - Corporal Major
Cabo Primero - Corporal
Cabo - Lance Corporal

Soldado - Private
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
-
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
-
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
-
[close]
Naval

Greece
Foot
Spoiler
Stratigos - General
Antistratigos - Lieutenant General
Ypostratigos - Major General
Taxiarchos - Brigadier

Syntagmatarchis - Colonel
Antisyntagmatachis - Lieutenant Colonel
Tagmatarchis - Major

Lochagos - Captain
Ypolochagos - Lieutenant
Anthypolochagos - Second Lieutenant
Lochias - Sergeant
Dekaneas - Corporal
Ypodekaneas - Lance Corporal
Stratiotis - Private
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
-
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
-
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
-
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
-
[close]

Japan

Foot
Spoiler
Taisa [Colonel]
Chusa [Lieutenant Colonel]
Shosa [Major]
Taii [Captain]
Chui [First Lieutenant]
Shoi [Second Lieutenant]
Jun-i [Enisgn]

Socho [Sergeant-Major]
Gunso [Sergeant]
Gocho [Corporal]

Heicho [Lance Corporal]
Jotthei [Senior Private]
Kimmishia [Acting Senior Private]
Ittohei [Private First Class]
Nittohei [Private]
[close]
Skirmishers
Spoiler
-
[close]
Cavalry
Spoiler
-
[close]
Artillery
Spoiler
-
[close]
Naval
Spoiler
-
[close]
« Last Edit: April 14, 2016, 09:33:38 pm by Emperor Napoleon »

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2013, 11:37:54 am »
Lance Corporal was not a rank during the period (neither was chosen man, but that's besides the point).

The French rank Major was equivalent to a Lieutenant-Colonel, not a Major. The Chef de Bataillon/d'Escadron was the equivalent of a Major, being the commander of a battalion/squadron.

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2013, 11:49:49 am »
Damn Doc you beat me to it.

Chosen man was something of a rank made up in the rifles if Mark Urbans Rifles is correct and is likely to have existed in that (95th) regiment only. 2nd lieutenant was  only 95th and not 5/60th, I've said this to all previous managers of this thread and have always been ignored.

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2013, 12:08:16 pm »
Chosen man was an appointment, not a rank. One chosen man was chosen (hence the name) from each half-platoon. He had no real duties (though he was sometimes expected to act as the corporal's assistant) and no extra pay, but all corporals were to be promoted from the company's chosen men, which was the main benefit.

All light regiments had the appointment, not just the rifles.

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 12:08:57 pm »
I think that updates it, if I did what I think you told me to do...
« Last Edit: June 13, 2013, 12:11:03 pm by Emperor Napoleon »

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2013, 10:12:41 am »
Not sure if a good idea or not, but maybe it would be to also include the shorthand of the ranks as that is what you use in game, I know it would be a lot of work but just an idea.  :)

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2013, 10:19:34 am »
That would be difficult, as regiments use different ranking systems, but I think I could put other ranks in. It would be a hand if there was help though...

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2013, 01:33:31 pm »
Lance Corporal was some sort of rank during that period. Privates who showed good conduct and good dicipline and who could become future NCO's were given the right to wear a Single Chevron on their arm as a Rank insignia. THat's basically the rank of Lance Corporal in all but name.
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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2013, 01:54:31 pm »
Just remembered I came across some substantial evidence that Lance Serjeant definitely did exist at the time, as an appointment, though I can't remember where I found it...

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2013, 02:05:04 pm »
Lance Corporal was some sort of rank during that period. Privates who showed good conduct and good dicipline and who could become future NCO's were given the right to wear a Single Chevron on their arm as a Rank insignia. THat's basically the rank of Lance Corporal in all but name.
It was not a rank, more of an appointment in that case. Therefore, it will  not be added.

Just remembered I came across some substantial evidence that Lance Serjeant definitely did exist at the time, as an appointment, though I can't remember where I found it...
Lance Sergeant isn't on the list old chap.

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2013, 02:23:24 pm »
Chosen man was an appointment, not a rank. One chosen man was chosen (hence the name) from each half-platoon. He had no real duties (though he was sometimes expected to act as the corporal's assistant) and no extra pay, but all corporals were to be promoted from the company's chosen men, which was the main benefit.

All light regiments had the appointment, not just the rifles.

Oh Doc, always with the extra pile of information about something that was so simple to say  :P By the by I noticed the J in Japan was lower case, couldn't help myself to mention  ;D

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2013, 05:07:48 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2013, 06:17:29 pm »
Why are you bumping a thread when the last reply was today? Ranks on the forum don't increase by post count you know :0
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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2013, 12:17:27 am »
Lance Corporal was some sort of rank during that period. Privates who showed good conduct and good dicipline and who could become future NCO's were given the right to wear a Single Chevron on their arm as a Rank insignia. THat's basically the rank of Lance Corporal in all but name.

You're confusing chosen men with acting corporals. Chosen men wore a single chevron and were the only men that could be promoted to corporal. An acting corporal was a man of merit (though not enough to be a chosen man) from the third squad of every company. It was an appointment that only existed (like acting sergeants) while the company was in formation and involved no increase in rank or pay. Acting corporals were thus not entitled to any rank distinctions.

I can't find a single period document that calls them anything other than "acting corporal", though.

Just remembered I came across some substantial evidence that Lance Serjeant definitely did exist at the time, as an appointment, though I can't remember where I found it...

Lance sergeants unquestionably existed. The senior corporal in each company was considered the acting or lance (acting is certainly the more common name) sergeant and took on some of a sergeants responsibilities, though still received the pay of a corporal.

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Re: [Updated] Collection of Historical Ranks
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2013, 12:42:05 am »
For the Dutch artillery in 1814, their sergeant should be 'Bombardier', their sergeant-major 'Bombardier-Majoor'. In 1815 and later it seems to have took over the infantry ranks, minus the 'private' rank which stayed 'Canonier. Their was also a rank called '1ste Canonier', of which I have no idea what it was, besides one step above 'Canonier'.
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