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Stalin avatar but no Hitler avatar? Or Ataturk?
« on: July 11, 2016, 06:08:41 pm »
Why are Hitler avatars banned while Stalin, Ataturk or Emperor Hirohito ones are not? Stalin caused:
- Holomodor (2.5 to 7.5 million dead)
- Decossackizaion (3,000,000 to 5,000,000 dead)

With many more to mention. Overall, 56 to 62 million people died from the Soviet Union. Thats nearly 5 times more than Nazi Germany. So why are Stalin avatars allowed?

I have seen something with an Ataturk avatar, who authorized the deaths of 450,000 to 750,000 deaths in the Ottoman empire during the ethnic cleansing of Christian Ottoman Greeks from Anatolia. He literally commited a genocide, I don't see why Ataturk is allowed as an avatar? Or perhaps Emperor Hirohito? Need I remind you on Nanjing?

I don't see the logic in people being muted or banned for having Hitler avatar's when other users get off scot free with avatars such as these who killed the same or more amount than Nazi Germany.

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Re: Stalin avatar but no Hitler avatar? Or Ataturk?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2016, 06:34:56 pm »
"Images or content aimed at glorying National-Socialism are specially forbidden: FSE does not wish to contravene Germany's strict policies in regards to Strafgesetzbuch section 86a and thus requests that its users adhere to this policy as part of the terms of service agreement."

Does Germany have laws on the other people you mentioned?

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Re: Stalin avatar but no Hitler avatar? Or Ataturk?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2016, 06:50:42 pm »
"Images or content aimed at glorying National-Socialism are specially forbidden: FSE does not wish to contravene Germany's strict policies in regards to Strafgesetzbuch section 86a and thus requests that its users adhere to this policy as part of the terms of service agreement."

Does Germany have laws on the other people you mentioned?

How do you deem an image of glorying National-Socialism?

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Re: Stalin avatar but no Hitler avatar? Or Ataturk?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2016, 06:56:33 pm »
"Images or content aimed at glorying National-Socialism are specially forbidden: FSE does not wish to contravene Germany's strict policies in regards to Strafgesetzbuch section 86a and thus requests that its users adhere to this policy as part of the terms of service agreement."

Does Germany have laws on the other people you mentioned?

How do you deem an image of glorying National-Socialism?
I don't know, not my problem. Go look up how they do it in Germany, since I don't want to read into laws.

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Re: Stalin avatar but no Hitler avatar? Or Ataturk?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2016, 07:10:20 pm »
"Images or content aimed at glorying National-Socialism are specially forbidden: FSE does not wish to contravene Germany's strict policies in regards to Strafgesetzbuch section 86a and thus requests that its users adhere to this policy as part of the terms of service agreement."

Does Germany have laws on the other people you mentioned?

How do you deem an image of glorying National-Socialism?

It matter absolute jack shit what he, you or I deem. Germany has extremely strcit laws regarding Nazi content. If sites are repeatedly caught with it - no more internet for said website. Germans are, as usual, very effective and tight on this. The ideas you claim are valid, and may perhaps be considered by the administration team, but there is a reason FSE is extra-strict on Nazi symbolism and such. It doesn't have to be logical, if it isn't legal. Then you just do wha the fuck they want from you.  :-*

I do support the idea of this becoming forum policy, but I'll leave this for the admins to shoot to shit.
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Re: Stalin avatar but no Hitler avatar? Or Ataturk?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2016, 07:48:52 pm »
Most of us are applying the same rules for a picture of Hitler or one of Stalin (under section 1 and 5). The precision made in the Forum Rules for nazi imagery was necessary due to a large amount of people using it to make jokes and a lesser amount glorying the Third Reich on the internet.
In general, we will always remove (when it's reported mostly) any pictures refering to a genocide, war crimes etc
« Last Edit: July 11, 2016, 07:52:52 pm by Carabino »

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Re: Stalin avatar but no Hitler avatar? Or Ataturk?
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 08:14:29 pm »
Well, I think this problem has been resolved. Locked.

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Re: Stalin avatar but no Hitler avatar? Or Ataturk?
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2016, 03:08:25 am »
That being said, nice sig McLovin!

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Re: Stalin avatar but no Hitler avatar? Or Ataturk?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2016, 08:30:58 pm »
That being said, nice sig McLovin!

I agree.