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Title: Death in Reenactment
Post by: KurassierNixon on March 30, 2015, 01:49:19 pm
How do you know if you have died in reenactment? Does death have a degree of difference between each era (as in being wounded or dead)? How do you "come back to life"? Also internet points for the best story about dieing in reenacting.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: zac on March 30, 2015, 02:44:01 pm
oh no...not this question again *runs away and hides under bridge waiting for duuring* :'(
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: DeoVindice61 on March 31, 2015, 05:25:47 am
Ok i got a story.

I was marching with Stonewall Jackson, he romped us so hard as he sucked that lemon like a bitch. Mmmmm my lord finest man I've seen in the South. Now here we was rolling around some shithole called Chancellorsville, now you look here, we was rolling but pretty damn quiet. We snuck up on the dutch-nazi corp so damn quiet that they was half naked when we did the charge. We charged and bitch slapped Joe Hooker big time and I fell on my bayonet and died.


GG NO RE BEST STORY M8 TOP DAT SHIT. 


(in reality, you die by exhaustion, running out of ammo, or pre-planned. Or some asshole shoot you pointblank at 1inch, you should die, you're not a superman dammit.)

 ;)
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Ililsa on March 31, 2015, 08:35:27 am
I die when someone hits me and I think 'yeah that would probably do me in'

In multi-group battles I die when I'm on the verge of wanting to legit hurt someone.
Once some guy jammed a spear into me about an inch from my junk so I decided I'd better go down instead of finding and nutting them.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Betaknight on March 31, 2015, 12:32:57 pm
Quote from: Ililsa on March 31, 2015, 08:35:27 am
I die when someone hits me and I think 'yeah that would probably do me in'

In multi-group battles I die when I'm on the verge of wanting to legit hurt someone.
Once some guy jammed a spear into me about an inch from my junk so I decided I'd better go down instead of finding and nutting them.
Hahahahaha XD
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: joer5835 on March 31, 2015, 02:39:24 pm
My most glorious death was the one in which an Imperial Guard Grenadier pushed me over and clubbed me to death with his musket.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Ililsa on April 01, 2015, 02:43:16 pm
Quote from: Betaknight on March 31, 2015, 12:32:57 pm
Quote from: Ililsa on March 31, 2015, 08:35:27 am
I die when someone hits me and I think 'yeah that would probably do me in'

In multi-group battles I die when I'm on the verge of wanting to legit hurt someone.
Once some guy jammed a spear into me about an inch from my junk so I decided I'd better go down instead of finding and nutting them.
Hahahahaha XD

I have no idea if they just weren't aiming well or whether they thought/were told it was the best place to go for.

All I know is there are a lot of nerves down there.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Mr. Kochi on April 07, 2015, 02:31:34 am
In my group we used a marked cartridge system. If you load a cartridge wrapped in red paper, you die next.

Or, in case of those who don't shoot (ie drummers, flag bearer, officers, etc), we just take hits when nobody else does.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: kpetschulat on April 07, 2015, 03:41:14 am
One of my favorite deaths was at this past Battle of the Bulge reenactment. A kamerad and I took out an American halftrack and used it for cover. I decided to run out from cover in a "glorious uhleet super smersh suicide charge" and saw four GI reenactors aiming at me and shooting me... I fumbled my body around like I got shot by all of them, released my gun from my hand as I flew bacwards and smashed hard on my back into a snowy ditch and laid there in blizzard conditions getting covered by new snow falling from the heavens like crazy for a solid 15 minutes. Then was dragged by two other kameraden back to a "recycle" point and then the scenario reset and us Germans had to move out.

Here's a pic from the event. I'm in the dead middle in the back with the camo smock wearing an a-frame. I'm standing by the ditch I fell into.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10473056_10205860548492416_2722104287157095996_n.jpg?oh=21fb1a2a0b2a6e4b39e64610d3302e1f&oe=559B5C4A&__gda__=1436214575_8da02a6cb4713f92d0ff91e6e9390ac0)
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Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Olafson on April 07, 2015, 09:30:46 am
Is all that camo realistic for WW2 scenarios? I always thought that camo was very limited.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: DeoVindice61 on April 07, 2015, 07:28:12 pm
Camo limited fur das Heer.   Camo unlimited fur das SS.  In fact, Plently of SS camo that when heer guys attempt to repair their camo item, they use pieces of SS camo.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: kpetschulat on April 08, 2015, 06:42:09 am
The Heer (Army) did use camo, quite a bit, but nowhere near the amount used by the SS. As Deo said though, a lot of depot repairs and field repairs were used with tattered or "found" pieces of SS camo patterns. I saw this really funny looking photo my friend had in a book about German camo of WWII, and the guy had a Sumpftarn Heer coverall set with patches of SS Planentarn over his forearm area and his knees. Lots of camo field repairs were used with other types of camo, and done by the Luftwaffe, Heer, and SS. Some SS smock were also made in parts and would have a torso of Palmentarn with maybe Planentarn arms or skirt, just for an example.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: da on June 04, 2015, 12:59:41 am
Each group/situation has their own rules. Whilst at practice (so it's just 'out', rather than 'dead') we take two hits (or more for newbies/if you're wearing armour).
Alternatively, I've been in a battle where it was "If you're hit once, stumble back and don't move. If you're hit again whilst you're like this, you're dead". It was fun - kept people in the battle a lot longer.

Now for my particular group, in terms of 'degree of death', when we're doing local shows we have 'wounded'. Like, the crowd knows we're not "dead" so it then becomes much more believable if we just sort of .. limp and act as though the force of the blow has done its damage.
Get a lot of "ooo" and "ahhh"'s buy that style - my personal favourite.

To signify the end of the event/resurrect the fallen, I've heard a lot of groups use the phrase "Dead Arise".

But again, every group/situation seems to have its own rules.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Millander on June 04, 2015, 07:40:56 am
I seldom reenact anymore but whenever I get the chance I almost never die. Not because ima farb or a wussy but because in most Civil War reenactments the wounded are really under portrayed.

Most men survived their wounds or didn't die instantly. Amid a firefight on most blackpowder Battlefields you had more wounded soldiers on the ground than you had dead ones. It allows you to still be able to have fun acting and your able to continue to watch whats going on. Often I will have a scenario where I am helped of the battlefield or attended to.

 It contributes to the event as a whole far more than if I flopped over and had my cap on my face.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: DeoVindice61 on June 04, 2015, 08:34:43 pm
I once deserted a battle, threw down my rifle and took my knapsack off like it was on fire and ran like hell.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Duuring on June 04, 2015, 09:03:20 pm
At Leipzig, our small Prussian batallion faced a much larger line of Poles and Young Guard infantry. They came at us, we marched towards them, and then about 20 meters the lines stopped and both sides jeered at eachother. This continued for like a minute, when suddenly someone shouted 'Zuruck!'. We broke. And ran. The batallion was shattered, and we had to regroup a good distance behind, around the flag.

Much more awesome and accurate than dying. There's truly nothing like running like hell.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Nick Lazanis on June 18, 2015, 11:11:02 pm
In every one I've watched/participated we just break and reform from a distance.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Mr. Kochi on June 28, 2015, 04:09:52 am
This is a small rant of mine, but I barely saw anyone dropping dead at Waterloo this year. Seriously, in my unit for example, only myself and two others dropped. Some even refused to do so when told to.

Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Colonel Howe on June 28, 2015, 07:22:33 am
Quote from: Mr. Kochi on June 28, 2015, 04:09:52 am
This is a small rant of mine, but I barely saw anyone dropping dead at Waterloo this year. Seriously, in my unit for example, only myself and two others dropped. Some even refused to do so when told to.
I'm not a reenactor but from the footage i saw of waterloo this year, I can understand why no one would want to lay down and miss a second of it
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: joer5835 on June 28, 2015, 07:54:52 pm
Quote from: Colonel Howe on June 28, 2015, 07:22:33 am
Quote from: Mr. Kochi on June 28, 2015, 04:09:52 am
This is a small rant of mine, but I barely saw anyone dropping dead at Waterloo this year. Seriously, in my unit for example, only myself and two others dropped. Some even refused to do so when told to.
I'm not a reenactor but from the footage i saw of waterloo this year, I can understand why no one would want to lay down and miss a second of it

Sadly, this is so true. And I am guilty of it as well, as a a result of that I popped nearly 50 shots during each battle. Normally we only get 15-20.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Olafson on June 28, 2015, 11:41:11 pm
Please, you can have plenty of fun. I died 3 times during Waterloo...
Just make sure that your group picks you up again, when advancing.

Good Groups and especially good officers will make sure that you will not continue being dead for the rest of the battle.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: UhtredskaerAlsoMilky on June 28, 2015, 11:44:46 pm
Problems we had was that the smoke and noise made it very difficult to tell how close cavalry was, so was largely too dangerous to lay down in that wheat unless there were no horses anywhere nearby
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: joer5835 on June 29, 2015, 02:03:07 am
Yeah, there's also the issue with in the Dutch Brigade with Sjak Draak as your commander who's obsessed with moving every 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Barnesy on September 24, 2015, 10:51:28 am
Quote from: joer5835 on June 28, 2015, 07:54:52 pm
Quote from: Colonel Howe on June 28, 2015, 07:22:33 am
Quote from: Mr. Kochi on June 28, 2015, 04:09:52 am
This is a small rant of mine, but I barely saw anyone dropping dead at Waterloo this year. Seriously, in my unit for example, only myself and two others dropped. Some even refused to do so when told to.
I'm not a reenactor but from the footage i saw of waterloo this year, I can understand why no one would want to lay down and miss a second of it

Sadly, this is so true. And I am guilty of it as well, as a a result of that I popped nearly 50 shots during each battle. Normally we only get 15-20.

Guilty as charged! I noticed that barely anyone "Died". I say that in inverted commas because, well... people did die :/
Title: Re: Death in Reenactment
Post by: Mr. Kochi on September 30, 2015, 04:26:54 am
Yes, but  they don't count.