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Offline Rackio

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2013, 07:27:40 pm »
I agree with Hekko fully.
And its been a while but this also means im agreeing with Tavington xD
I always enjoy a good Hekko essay and i have not been disappointed in the slightest.
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Edit as people are wanting valid views on the topic.
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1) i have been here since MM and have been in large regiment and then onto some regiments where our own little communities have been created. The regiments after the large one, i have had as my main target to create a community within them. This means that within Line battles we act or try to disciplined, outside of LBs the regiments have been an all equal environment meaning ranks and admin ship means little. Admins and officers who give out abuse are in turn receive abuse.
--- In the community I have noted that some admins have held grudges from line battles and have then gone onto be harsh to members of regiments they have felt hard done to. I have no proof but i can give an example- say a guy was team killing or team kicking then admin then sees the people who have received kicks trying to stop it but then they get annoyed and kick back, they are then temp banned or kicked.
2) The cool kids part of Hekkos essay. Alot of members see it as an admin cool kid club, 'oh they are liked by high up admins so they get admin'. The normal everyday players just playing for fun then see it as a barrier to actually get involved with the community, this also going onto why the normal day players wont argue back to admins and just have to take the crappy end of the stick and either feel bitter or leave. In which case friends of mine have left the community as they can no longer be bothered with the admin politics and how it trickles down.....'oh hey guys i know a high up admin I can get him to ban you trololol'. Simple as fuck you guys...
3) The actual talking to people from within the community people post on the forums then just get crappy gifs or 'lame' posts, if they are at least posting then they ARE at least trying to join in. I have arguments with other regiments and a big argument with Tavington, however this doesn't mean i wont go ask for his advice or help solving a problem. We may not be the best of friends but I would rather turn to him or in fact any member of the was 15e as they would abuse you, but Hekko or Ward would sort it out, but as even some of the admin team are feeling disgruntled how does this help administration and functionality of this community while it still remain.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 08:09:05 pm by Rackio »
I'll always be sympathetic to your plight, Rackio. Probably not enough to act, but enough to care.

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2013, 07:27:54 pm »
I fully agree with you, Hekko. Very well put.

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2013, 07:28:10 pm »
Although my imput probably isn't valid.
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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2013, 07:28:39 pm »
 Nicely said. +1

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2013, 07:29:13 pm »
Showing my support for the sake of it. +1 Me gusta.

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2013, 07:31:15 pm »
Bravo !!! +1 I love you Hekko !
DEMAND ME EVERYTHING ! Lets be honnest ! I PLAY NW BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY GAME ABOUT MY FAVORITE PERIOD !!
Kitty gf of vince ? wow sallopeeeee

Seriously I waited long for that.

Vive la révolution !

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2013, 07:32:25 pm »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI[/youtube]

...Thought the lyrics were relevant.

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2013, 07:32:50 pm »
Mugir ces féroces soldats!

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2013, 07:34:00 pm »
Glad someone had the balls to say this out loud.

+ Fucking 1

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2013, 07:34:13 pm »
Well put over Hekko, You said what alot of people were thinking.
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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2013, 07:34:18 pm »
Mugir ces féroces soldats!

Mugir vont ces soldats féroces*
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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2013, 07:34:34 pm »
Mugir ces féroces soldats!

Translation : The howling of these fearsome soldiers
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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2013, 07:34:43 pm »
You've got balls, brah!

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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2013, 07:35:27 pm »
I totally agree with you  ;)


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Re: The community deserves better
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2013, 07:35:43 pm »
Made the same quote on Taleworlds, but here is it again:

I, as probably many of you will find unsurprising, completely agree with this.

Hekko,  for putting everything so well and to the point, my compliments. Though everything typed by Hekko is a valid argument of their own, I would like to add something to this particular quote:

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Then we have the case about appointing admins. Apparently it's okay for Vince to appoint Kitty to a very senior adminposition by virtue of being his girlfriend, while when CarolusRex applies through normal channels, gets a bunch of +1 ones from current admins, he is denied based on the fact that he was a member of the 15e. Irregardless of the fact that he is competent and the fact that the 15e does no longer exist. So nepotism and cronyism is fine, where as using the reverse version to block a competent admin is apparently fine as well.Inconsistency at it's finest!

The appointment of Kitty is the very height of incompetence and indeed, favoritism. It's not only a big middle finger to all proper admins, who worked their ways to positions they very well deserve, but it's also a big laugh-out at the community. "Hey guys, I r vince, im doing wut I wantz", to put it bluntly.

At the end of the day, I am someone who can't stand injustice. The injustice which is the case here, is that FSE makes rules, and decides to skip those rules whenever they feel like it.

Rules are universal, they also count for those who made them.