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Title: Donations in the 91st. The truth. *UPDATED*
Post by: Jigstas on October 05, 2013, 06:58:15 pm
Donations in the 91st are something that you do to the regiment as a sign of commitment and supporting the regiment as a whole and want to carry on using the TeamSpeak and in game servers. It is not just about the NW aspect but the wider community and for those that have been around a while its about maintaining friendships in the regiment. Now, the supposed costs of the 91st are said by the Colonel to be 110 Euros a month. I found this odd and spoke with others in the NW community regarding these costs including Regimental leaders and Server hosters.

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Jigstas: i was wondering how much are the KKA costs for servers and the like?
PrideofNi [K-KA]: what, all of our servers?
Jigstas: Yep ts,website in game servers the lot
PrideofNi [K-KA]: around £40 I month I think
PrideofNi [K-KA]: a month*
Jigstas: Thanks, may I use this chat log for a post on fse?
PrideofNi [K-KA]: why? lol
Jigstas: Just a little project about something i am doing
PrideofNi [K-KA]: Sure, its fine I guess ^^
Jigstas: Thank you



Jigstas: Hi Tyrion mind if i ask you a quick question?
[78th]Col Tyrion: Sure?
Jigstas: How much are the 78th costs for ts,website and ingame servers?
[78th]Col Tyrion: around 35 a month
Jigstas: thanks, mind if this chat log is shared?
[78th]Col Tyrion: erm, what for?
Jigstas: A post of FSE regarding server costs
[78th]Col Tyrion: Oh, well our website is £8 a month, 50slot Ts, 12 a month and server about 15 - hope that helps
Jigstas: Thanks so thats 35 a month? Thanks!


Person 1: It's a Hetzner server, they are the only company which provide dedi's in germany of high specs, and they are well known around FSE
Person 2: And would there prices be around 110 Euros?
Person 2: their*
Person 1: 49 euro a month
Person 2: For a server box?
Person 1: 60 euro most likley depending if he included windows on it which is an extra 15 euro
Person 2: Yes

These 2 persons did not want their names involved in this but their permission was given to post these logs.

Jigstas: Hi Eazy
[25th] Eazy-E: hello
Jigstas: mind if i ask you a question?
[25th] Eazy-E: this about my costs? Tyrion told me
Jigstas: Yes it is, how much are all your server costs, ts , website and game servers?
[25th] Eazy-E: Teamspeak £10, website £10, 200 slot ingame server £20
[25th] Eazy-E: ish
[25th] Eazy-E: altogether my monthly expenditure is just under 40 quod
[25th] Eazy-E: quid
Jigstas: So about 45 a month then for the sake of argument?
[25th] Eazy-E: 49
[25th] Eazy-E: 40
[25th] Eazy-E: **
Jigstas: thanks mind if these logs are used on FSE in a post regarding server costs?
[25th] Eazy-E: not at all
Jigstas: Thank you very much

Jigstas: Hi Hekko
(WoC|2|Hekko: Heya
Jigstas: can i ask you about server costs and such?
(WoC|2|Hekko: Yeah
(WoC|2|Hekko: Go ahead :)
Jigstas: How much would a website, 2 200 slot servers and a ts cost?
(WoC|2|Hekko: Well it depends on the provider, I mean you could easily run that on the serverbos I go at the moment, and I am paying 49 euro a month for it at the moment
(WoC|2|Hekko: The bandwidth is the bottleneck for the servers rather than the hardware
Jigstas: Any idea about the 91st?
Jigstas: such as their costs and what they run? How much would it cost if i wanted too copy the same servers and the like?
(WoC|2|Hekko: Well afaik their server is in the netherlands, so it might not be comparable to what I am paying
(WoC|2|Hekko: And it might have considerably more bandwidth than I do
Jigstas: So its 110 Euros reasonable?
(WoC|2|Hekko: But if that isn't the case it should be floating between 20 euro more than what I pay at most I reckon
(WoC|2|Hekko: I mean, hiring 2 servers and a website from rackio will probably set you back 70 euro
(WoC|2|Hekko: And you will get the TS for free in that case
Jigstas: hmmm okay thanks do you mind if these logs are shared on a public forum?
(WoC|2|Hekko: Not at all
Jigstas: Thanks so does the 110 euro sound right for the 91st costs?
(WoC|2|Hekko: I cannot say, I am just saying that you could run the stuff that they have for around 50-60 with a normal server
Jigstas: Okay thank you
Jigstas: still okay to post the logs?
(WoC|2|Hekko: Yeah, it's fine.

Jigstas: How much is the server costs of the 92nd, ts, website and in game servers?
[92nd] John Cameron: Uhm. My website runs via all-inkl and costs me 5€ a month. I could run that via the game-server too but i rather have a good indipendant web-server and i am with that company for like 10 years already.
[92nd] John Cameron: The game server which runs teamspeak and all warband servers. As well as sometimes the one or other shooter server etc costs me 50€ a month + 15€ for the Operating System.
Jigstas: So about 65 Euro a month?
[92nd] John Cameron: I pay the webserver alone and the game server gets paid by myself and some good fellows who donate form time to time.
[92nd] John Cameron: Yeah 70€ all in all.
Jigstas: Thank you, do you mind this being posted on FSE?
[92nd] John Cameron: But thoertical everything could be done via just the game server for 65€.
Jigstas: Okay thanks
[92nd] John Cameron: And such a game server usually costs a setup fee. Which you just pay once.
Jigstas: Okay I got that so is it okay for me to post this on FSE?
[92nd] John Cameron: Uhm in what context? :3 Did I do anything bad?
Jigstas: In the context of the 91st not to do with you
[92nd] John Cameron: Uhm. Ok. I guess that does no harm.

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All these peoples permission was gained before posting these logs.

This screenshot was linked to me by the 91st Colonel through a third party.

*Removed on request by owner (Tavington) on grounds that he did not give OP permission to post it.*


First, notice that the different size and font in the product column. Between EX10 and the other product. Second the Unit price for the EX10 is 41.1765, but then in the next column in a different font and text size it says 79.84. These two figures do not add up. And it is easy to alter this in paint as I did myself to the final price. Changing it from 110-116. And it still looks exactly the same. 

(https://i.imgur.com/3It3JCQ.png?1)

So it would seem that the server costs are not what Tavington claims and are in fact cheaper meaning that he has not been honest to the whole of the 91st and most likely pocketing the rest for himself.

(https://i.imgur.com/qdQKOBW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7HXxRcC.png)

Further these pictures are of Hetzner invoices from other server hosters. Notice the different font and font size on the product and price. And Total costs.

This post is a warning not just to the 91st but too all members of Regiments be careful when you donate to the regiment. In the case of the 91st we can only guess at how much money has slipped through the cracks....

Regards


Jigstas
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Hydra on October 05, 2013, 07:02:46 pm
Well, seems as though the truth always comes out in the end.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Desert Thunda on October 05, 2013, 07:04:05 pm
Why am I not suprised.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: William on October 05, 2013, 07:08:16 pm
I must applaud you immensely, I like how went through every little detail such as getting the steam conversations approved,  and finding server costs. The 91st can do nothing to get rid of this since it's all legal on the forums, congrats on exposing this. Sherlock Holmes of NW  :)
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: The Nutty Pig on October 05, 2013, 07:08:52 pm
Wait for someone from the 91st to post on Tav's behalf before coming up with crazy accusations.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: MaHuD on October 05, 2013, 07:12:32 pm
I have been telling you all along that the 91st leadership is bad.
Pretty much silly how many people can fall for it.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Emperor Napoleon on October 05, 2013, 07:13:23 pm
Wow

I never thought this would happen.

Great work my friend!
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Tyrionpk on October 05, 2013, 07:13:49 pm
Oh, so this is what it was for lol, hmm but yeah 110 a month seems a huge amount...
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Bastard on October 05, 2013, 07:14:17 pm
GG WP, Jiggy bringer of Truth, Warden of FSE, and Warrior of all thing honourable.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Ian MacGregor on October 05, 2013, 07:15:45 pm
Tav's pocketing money and using the 91st as a pyramid scheme by rewarding donations with ranks and sweet-talking his way into keeping his members donating? Wow. Did NOT see that coming.

Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Higgins on October 05, 2013, 07:17:11 pm
call ze poleece
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Oxford_ on October 05, 2013, 07:22:32 pm
wow..  :o

Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Griff on October 05, 2013, 07:22:46 pm
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(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2Fedb21acf84999bb4f242b27c8d7fdee1.png&hash=e321053f2907f16b3da52264de4a24df0b8e236b)
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He won't steal your moneyz.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Cara on October 05, 2013, 07:25:14 pm
Guys, what's the problem ? It's Capitalism
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: McEwan on October 05, 2013, 07:53:58 pm
Moved back. Excuse the move; temporary measure to stop spam posts and coordinate with other administrators. Tavington will be writing up a defense, as is only fair, and will be posted here when possible.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Kitty on October 05, 2013, 08:04:28 pm
Sad it took another 1 1/2 Years for this to come out into the open...This has happened before...Just ask the old higher ranks of the 91st.....My 2 Pennies for this
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: MaHuD on October 05, 2013, 08:06:47 pm
Sad it took another 1 1/2 Years for this to come out into the open...This has happened before...Just ask the old higher ranks of the 91st.....My 2 Pennies for this
I have been told that it isn't just happening in the 91st, hopefully this will be an eyeopener for many people.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Nano on October 05, 2013, 08:08:09 pm
Interesting
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: CharlesVasser on October 05, 2013, 08:13:11 pm
Wow....
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Emperor Napoleon on October 05, 2013, 08:18:29 pm
So many people looking at the thread... Too many!
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: goodstuff on October 05, 2013, 08:19:12 pm
I really don't see how you can defend that...
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Furrnox on October 05, 2013, 08:21:04 pm
Tavington best Col EU
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: hherlev on October 05, 2013, 08:23:02 pm
This has been happening for years, Stalker was a main culprit back in the day.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Alfred on October 05, 2013, 08:29:57 pm
Well what can ya say? truth and time will always tell  :-\
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Kitty on October 05, 2013, 08:30:22 pm
110 - 65 = 45  per month
Going on for like 2 years or more,
45 * 24 months = 1080 euro profit, probably more.

Enjoy!


Nice Pocketmoney :P
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Harbinger on October 05, 2013, 08:30:38 pm
This has been happening for years, Stalker was a main culprit back in the day.
Rest now, sweet angel.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Furrnox on October 05, 2013, 08:35:27 pm
I can see a nice tune being made from this.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Kitty on October 05, 2013, 08:35:38 pm
Or imagine it in Skittles way of talking :P Very musical ;)
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Skittles on October 05, 2013, 08:36:34 pm
Yes yeeees, you know you can imagine the smile on my face...
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Jigstas on October 05, 2013, 08:37:10 pm
Guys please keep on topic! We dont want this thread locked.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: MagicTeatowel on October 05, 2013, 08:39:08 pm
I don't know if you took this into consideration but maybe some of  the things are a yearly cost and the left over money may be brought together to pay for that item/service.

Just an idea.

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I don't know anything about servers and their payment plans so I have no idea if this is the case.
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Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: hherlev on October 05, 2013, 08:39:18 pm
Rest now, sweet angel.

Hey, haven't seen you in a while. 105 Euros back in the day, right? I suppose if this thread was made back in the day, all the 51st cronies would have been on it like flies around cow dung. Just saying.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: kpetschulat on October 05, 2013, 08:40:31 pm
Wow, I had a few friends in the 91st, and the told me about this 110euro/Month donation for "91st servers and teamspeak." That didn't make any sense to me, and sure as hell didn't make sense to them. They ended up leaving too. Seeing as this guy is embezzling money over the internet, and that's an international crime, if this is brought up high enough he could see huge consequences including fines, the repayment of those he took money from, possibly even jail time.

I don't think this idiot understands what he's in for.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Hydra on October 05, 2013, 08:41:06 pm
Like I always said, the 91st are slimy bastard bitches who care only about themselves.
How mature of you, why are you targeting the whole regiment? This is Tavington, not everybody else in the 91st.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Harbinger on October 05, 2013, 08:41:49 pm
Rest now, sweet angel.

Hey, haven't seen you in a while. 105 Euros back in the day, right? I suppose if this thread was made back in the day, all the 51st cronies would have been on it like flies around cow dung. Just saying.
wat
Our current goal is 64 euros a month, with Stalker most of the time having to dip in his own wallet to fit the bill. But it's okay, many lols were had with your blind hate, even after so long.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: kpetschulat on October 05, 2013, 08:42:10 pm
Like I always said, the 91st are slimy bastard bitches who care only about themselves.
How mature of you, why are you targeting the whole regiment? This is Tavington, not everybody else in the 91st.

I'm sure there are others reaping the bonus Euros in the 91st...
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Skittles on October 05, 2013, 08:43:34 pm
Yeah guys it's not the 91st, it's just Tavington.  No need to put hate on them all for what he has done.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: MagicTeatowel on October 05, 2013, 08:44:24 pm
Before we all start stating how "evil" Tavington is, I think it is only fair we wait for a response. There could be a legitimate reason for all we know . . . .
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: hherlev on October 05, 2013, 08:45:42 pm
wat
Our current goal is 64 euros a month, with Stalker most of the time having to dip in his own wallet to fit the bill. But it's okay, many lols were had with your blind hate, even after so long.

I don't hate you guys! I feel sorry for you! I bet Stalker was laughing hard whilst parasiting all your hard earned money! Oh, yeah, you don't work.
I suppose this thread would put an end to Stalker's favourite past time.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Hydra on October 05, 2013, 08:46:01 pm
Like I always said, the 91st are slimy bastard bitches who care only about themselves.
How mature of you, why are you targeting the whole regiment? This is Tavington, not everybody else in the 91st.

I'm sure there are others reaping the bonus Euros in the 91st...
That may be, but what I mean is that Tavington is doing this to his own regiment, and the people who have supposedly been tricked are "slimy bastard bitches"?
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Harbinger on October 05, 2013, 08:49:21 pm
Hey, haven't seen you in a while. 105 Euros back in the day, right? I suppose if this thread was made back in the day, all the 51st cronies would have been on it like flies around cow dung. Just saying.
wat
Our current goal is 64 euros a month, with Stalker most of the time having to dip in his own wallet to fit the bill. But it's okay, many lols were had with your blind hate, even after so long.

I don't hate you guys! I feel sorry for you! I bet Stalker was laughing hard whilst parasiting all your hard earned money! Oh, yeah, you don't work.
I suppose this thread would put an end to Stalker's favourite past time.
We love you too, never change.
PS: fixed those quotes for you
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: James on October 05, 2013, 08:49:41 pm
How awful, Murphy must be devastated his 1p donation was a waste.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 05, 2013, 08:55:21 pm
Honestly, why the hell is Tavington even allowed to still play NW anymore? On top of being a bigot, unfair and demanding almost to the death loyalty from his members, we now have proof that he's been committing an international crime! Seriously he should be banned from all FSE products permanently, NW and BCoF!
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Madbull on October 05, 2013, 08:59:56 pm
This Isn't a shock to me.

He's supports National Socialism, and is now stealing from others like a scumbag. But his puppets still adore him like a saint..............
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Marceaux on October 05, 2013, 09:01:16 pm
Wow, I had a few friends in the 91st, and the told me about this 110euro/Month donation for "91st servers and teamspeak." That didn't make any sense to me, and sure as hell didn't make sense to them. They ended up leaving too. Seeing as this guy is embezzling money over the internet, and that's an international crime, if this is brought up high enough he could see huge consequences including fines, the repayment of those he took money from, possibly even jail time.

I don't think this idiot understands what he's in for.

Exactly, I suggest someone contact a Interpol agent.
Embezzling money is a very real and serious crime.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Bastard on October 05, 2013, 09:01:47 pm
This Isn't a shock to me.

He's supports National Socialism, and is now stealing from others like a scumbag. But his puppets still adore him like a saint..............

You don't know that they "adore him like a saint".
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 05, 2013, 09:03:18 pm
This Isn't a shock to me.

He's supports National Socialism, and is now stealing from others like a scumbag. But his puppets still adore him like a saint..............

You don't know that they "adore him like a saint".

This is true, I've met plenty of 91st who've got problems with Tav. They just can't say anything or else they get booted and kybashed.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Marceaux on October 05, 2013, 09:03:52 pm
Also i declare the funds he illegaly received should be given back towards the development of BCoF! ;D
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Salt on October 05, 2013, 09:04:06 pm
This is exactly what this community needs.... more drama.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Rackio on October 05, 2013, 09:04:12 pm
Sad it took another 1 1/2 Years for this to come out into the open...This has happened before...Just ask the old higher ranks of the 91st.....My 2 Pennies for this


for sure (old Lt of the 91st)



also from hekkos statement on the main post.
i don't do a free teamspeak and the costs are alot lower now not 70euros  ::) . for 2 servers(200) we do deals and will come to a lower cost :) will be below 40euros ;)
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Gokiller on October 05, 2013, 09:04:46 pm
RIP 91st :( That's an auto win for us on Sunday! YAY!  ;D
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Potterr on October 05, 2013, 09:05:39 pm
RIP 91st :( That's an auto win for us on Sunday! YAY!  ;D

we're putting the 1v1 down as 10-0 to us
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: hherlev on October 05, 2013, 09:06:55 pm
Exactly, I suggest someone contact a Interpol agent.
Embezzling money is a very real and serious crime.

Attacking someones political beliefs although insipid they may be is discrimination, for example, I want all communists to go and shoot themselves. Furthermore, this is not embezzlement since it is donations - he did not force them to donate.
I love how these forums works, someone with a bit of success screws up and the witch hunt begins..
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Coldstream Captain Thomas on October 05, 2013, 09:08:04 pm
Exactly, I suggest someone contact a Interpol agent.
Embezzling money is a very real and serious crime.

Attacking someones political beliefs although insipid they may be is discrimination, for example, I want all communists to go and shoot themselves. Furthermore, this is not embezzlement since it is donations - he did not force them to donate.
I love how these forums works, someone with a bit of success screws up and the witch hunt begins..
Its a joke, calm down.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: MagicTeatowel on October 05, 2013, 09:09:45 pm
Well at least the whole community hasn't found out yet . . . .

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Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: hherlev on October 05, 2013, 09:11:00 pm
Exactly, I suggest someone contact a Interpol agent.
Embezzling money is a very real and serious crime.

Attacking someones political beliefs although insipid they may be is discrimination, for example, I want all communists to go and shoot themselves. Furthermore, this is not embezzlement since it is donations - he did not force them to donate.
I love how these forums works, someone with a bit of success screws up and the witch hunt begins..
Its a joke, calm down.

If you want a crime, look at the receipt. It is fraud, yes? Imbecile.

Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 05, 2013, 09:11:25 pm
Exactly, I suggest someone contact a Interpol agent.
Embezzling money is a very real and serious crime.

Attacking someones political beliefs although insipid they may be is discrimination, for example, I want all communists to go and shoot themselves. Furthermore, this is not embezzlement since it is donations - he did not force them to donate.
I love how these forums works, someone with a bit of success screws up and the witch hunt begins..

They were donating under false pretenses, that is embezzlement (A form of fraud).

If he forced them to donate it'd be robbery.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: James Grant on October 05, 2013, 09:11:48 pm
Have you taken into mind the massive bandwidth of Tav's box,he has always hosted alot of servers.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: PhonieX on October 05, 2013, 09:12:17 pm
Goodbye 91st. I will miss you a lot. :/
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Mark on October 05, 2013, 09:13:06 pm
I have decided to give up my position as Captain in the 91st per the evidence provided to me here and outside of the game.

But I'm rather astonished by the comments on this thread. This thread is one enormous shitfest of people hating on the 91st. Have some respect. The 91st wasn't just formed by its leader, but also by its members.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Scol on October 05, 2013, 09:13:09 pm
Sad to see the 91st end like this, apart from Tav we were a great bunch.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: PhonieX on October 05, 2013, 09:13:57 pm
The 91st is disbanded.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: ClearlyInvsible on October 05, 2013, 09:14:13 pm
I have decided to give up my position as Captain in the 91st per the evidence provided to me here and outside of the game.

But I'm rather astonished by the comments on this thread. This thread is one enormous shitfest of people hating on the 91st. Have some respect. The 91st wasn't just formed by its leader, but also by its members.

Most people in the 91st are a good bunch Mark. It's saddening to see them all get shat on for this.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Icarus on October 05, 2013, 09:14:25 pm
oh dear :o
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Richard_Miller on October 05, 2013, 09:14:39 pm
ohh wow i am glad i never donated i would feel violated  ::)
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: The Nutty Pig on October 05, 2013, 09:15:08 pm
Well the 91st has disbanded.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Rackio on October 05, 2013, 09:15:29 pm
The 91st is disbanded.


pics or didnt happen
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Gokiller on October 05, 2013, 09:15:41 pm
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Most Online Today: 343. Most Online Ever: 343 (Today at 09:15:06 pm)

What Drama can do!
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Ian MacGregor on October 05, 2013, 09:15:59 pm
There were a lot of good people in the 91st, this is Tav's head on the block.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Primus69 on October 05, 2013, 09:16:24 pm
The abuse that the 91st are getting. This is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Sleek on October 05, 2013, 09:17:57 pm
I liked most of the people in the 91st, including Tav, but after this, I don't like him anymore, as someone who is so "mature" for his age shouldn't be doing something as stupid as this. Good luck to the rest of the 91st.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Ahquatic on October 05, 2013, 09:18:12 pm
The abuse that the 91st are getting. This is ridiculous.

This is what happens when you piss off an entire community of people who are just in it for the game, but a group of people led by an egotistical power hungry neo-nazi leader can ruin it all.
They're just receiving the shit that Tav gave out.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: PhonieX on October 05, 2013, 09:18:33 pm
Well, in our ts, we dont have tags on. Tavington just announced we were disbanded.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Hydra on October 05, 2013, 09:19:20 pm
The abuse that the 91st are getting. This is ridiculous.

This is what happens when you piss off an entire community of people who are just in it for the game, but a group of people led by an egotistical power hungry neo-nazi leader can ruin it all.
They're just receiving the shit that Tav gave out.
And the shit they are getting shouldn't be towards most of the 91st. Towards Tavington is understandable however.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Joseph Graham on October 05, 2013, 09:19:41 pm
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Should Tav be worried?

I am honoured.

On a more serious note; if it's true, shame on him. If not, shame on you. I've never really cared for why Tav's been on the receiving end of so much hate given how petty the M&B community can be, but people need to stop directing so much hatred at the 91st. Like someone else said it was the members that made the regiment, not Tav.

That aside, you ought to consider posting this over on Taleworlds; they haven't had much in the way of drama recently.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: uknut1 on October 05, 2013, 09:20:19 pm
*Anxiously awaits Tavypoo's response*
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: PhonieX on October 05, 2013, 09:21:22 pm
Well, it's a shame we got disbanded.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: RagingWomble on October 05, 2013, 09:22:19 pm
It is worth pointing out that he was recently banned on PW servers and threatened to take action against peoples families facebook profiles. He also changed his steam profile picture to the scumbag Anders Breivik. Classy.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: MagicTeatowel on October 05, 2013, 09:22:24 pm
We should all just calm down and see what Tavington has too say, this could all be legit for all we know.

However I must admit that banning people and disbanding looks suspicious.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Jigstas on October 05, 2013, 09:22:39 pm
Locking the thread to stop the abuse of ex 91st members.
Title: Re: Donations in the 91st. The truth.
Post by: Jigstas on October 06, 2013, 07:49:07 pm
Tavington has lied to us for far too long; the time has come for the final truth, not another lie https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/index.php?topic=9401.45 .He was not affected in the slightest by the disband of the 91st; 40 minutes after the disband, he made a new regiment. His total profit from donations is at least £1000. As mentioned, he didn't get affected by anything as you can see in this screenshot *snip*, he still lies to people.
*snip*. From that chat with Phreak, http://gyazo.com/fa676ba33e7437e6144d7e9929e3218b . The time has come for the truth, this is Tav's invoices for the server box each month since he set it up, the price has been 64 euros a month constantly. This is the last piece of the of the puzzle: https://i.imgur.com/cFNxNdc.png

Tavington also rented servers to people and regiments. Surely this cost something? Or was it for free?

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