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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2280 on: January 16, 2018, 10:18:48 pm »
Why does Tusk's message conflict with what the EU's position has always been: Brexit is bad, it's Britain's choice which it can cancel at any time, and there can be no special status for the UK? This has been clear from the start, and has not changed. While the British haven't even decided if they want to leave the single market yet. Since the referendum, no less then 19 months have passed, and still the British haven't got a clue on what they actually want to achieve. It would be hilarious if it wasn't going to cost us so much money and jobs.
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2281 on: January 16, 2018, 11:01:11 pm »
Britain is leaving the SM, it officially became Govt policy in January 2017 months before Article 50 was triggered. Sure some people are going around trying to cause trouble by saying the UK should/could stay in but they don't speak for the government and never have done.

The EU wants no 'special status' in some things but not in others. For instance they're keen to give the UK a 'special status' when it comes to defence and intelligence sharing and want us to prop up an EU army despite not being members:
https://www.ft.com/content/311dfbc6-f7a4-11e7-88f7-5465a6ce1a00


Your problem Duuring is you always look at what the politicians are saying rather than what the civil servants are doing. For instance Barnier often talks bollocks about 'negotiations being suspended blah blah' yet thousands of people are still working behind the scenes in Brussels and Westminster, often in tandem. What Barnier means is he and David Davis won't appear for a photo op together to crack open a bottle of champagne that particular month. This is all just window dressing to entertain idiots; the actual work is very boring technical stuff which Davis and Barnier are too stupid to understand, let alone journalists.
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2282 on: January 18, 2018, 09:44:09 am »
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2284 on: January 18, 2018, 04:31:31 pm »
Theresa May is a master of whataboutism
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2285 on: January 18, 2018, 10:07:19 pm »
Quote from: Gordo on January 18, 2018, 03:31:54 pm
https://gop.com/the-highly-anticipated-2017-fake-news-awards/

It sure was close this year!

Doesn't mention any Conservative media, hm not biased at all.
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2286 on: January 18, 2018, 11:08:43 pm »
Quote from: Furrnox on January 18, 2018, 10:07:19 pm
Quote from: Gordo on January 18, 2018, 03:31:54 pm
https://gop.com/the-highly-anticipated-2017-fake-news-awards/

It sure was close this year!

Doesn't mention any Conservative media, hm not biased at all.
It’s the GOP website
It’s not meant to be unbiased

You tried
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2287 on: January 18, 2018, 11:12:43 pm »
No shit, Sherlock.
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2288 on: January 18, 2018, 11:22:16 pm »
Quote from: Furrnox on January 18, 2018, 11:12:43 pm
No shit, Sherlock.
Raising an issue just to brush it off under the 'obviously I knew that' sort of guise. EDGE INTENSIFIES
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2289 on: January 18, 2018, 11:25:32 pm »
"90% of the news reported about Trump is negative"..... pretty much 90% of all news is negative  ;D ;D
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2290 on: January 19, 2018, 12:04:22 am »
Quote from: Furrnox on January 18, 2018, 11:12:43 pm
No shit, Sherlock.
What’s no shit is that it wouldn’t mention pro-Trump media but you brought it up like it was news anyways  ::)
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2291 on: January 19, 2018, 03:27:21 am »
Quote from: Theodin on January 19, 2018, 12:04:22 am
Quote from: Furrnox on January 18, 2018, 11:12:43 pm
No shit, Sherlock.
What’s no shit is that it wouldn’t mention pro-Trump media but you brought it up like it was news anyways  ::)
Meh just saying it's typical.
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2292 on: January 19, 2018, 04:35:58 am »
typical of a biased party to present what they view an issue as in their own terms. because they're a biased party. no left-wing news organization presents their views in objective centrist means because they're a biased party, like the GOP. That's how bias works
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2293 on: January 19, 2018, 12:40:59 pm »
What about more objective news agencies? I know they're a novelty in the U.S. but really they're rather nice over here.
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Re: The General Political Thread - Brexit poll (#FSEXIT)
« Reply #2294 on: January 19, 2018, 05:42:00 pm »
Quote from: Riddlez on January 19, 2018, 12:40:59 pm
What about more objective news agencies? I know they're a novelty in the U.S. but really they're rather nice over here.
We’ve got the National Post
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