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Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« on: February 27, 2014, 04:46:56 am »
What it is.

I'm bored with the current selection of units for the mod, and I know this was due to time-constraint, but for the future, I am making a huge list of troops that should be added for various factions. If I made a mistake in names, wording, troop types, etc. please let me know and I'll fix it.

Thanks.

French Third Republic
Infantry
Fusiliers (Standard Infantry)
Chasseur Alpins (Mountain Infantry)
Tirailleurs Sénégalais (Colonial Light Infantry)
Zouaves (Assault Infantry)
Bombers (Trench Raiders)
Support
Artillerie (Artillery)
HMG (Heavy Gun Support)
Dragons (Mounted Infantry)
Specialists
Sappeur et Mineurs (Engineers)
Croix-Rouge Internationale (Medical Support)
Fusilier Marins (Naval Infantry)
Légion Étrangère (French Foreign Legion)
Tireur (Snipers)
Sentinelle (Sentries)
Maréchal (Faction Commander)
     German Empire
Infantry
Landsers (Standard Infantry)
Sächsischen Infanterie (Saxon Infantry)
Württemberger Infanterie (Wurttemberg Infantry)
Alpenjägers (Mountain Infantry)
Sturmtruppen (Assault Infantry)
Support
Feld-kannone (Artillery)
Schweren Maschinengewehr (Heavy Gun Support)
Uhlans (Medium Cavalry Support)
Specialists
Pionieren (Engineers)
Sanitätsdienst (Medics)
Mariner (Naval Infantry)
Bayerisches Reservists (Bavarian Reserves)
Wachtposten (Armored Sentries)
Scharfschützen (Snipers)
General (Faction Commander)
     United Commonwealth
Infantry
British Infantry Section (Standard Infantry)
Scottish Infantry Section (Highland Infantry)
Canadian Infantry Section (Canadian Assault Troops)
Irish Fusiliers (Irish Infantry)
Gurkha Rifle Section (Indian Colonial Infantry)
Australian Infantry Section (Australian Infantry)
Support
Howitzers (Artillery)
HMG (Heavy Gun Support)
Hussars (Light Cavalry Support)
Specialists
Sapper Section (Engineers)
Ambulance Corps (Medics)
Royal Marines (Naval Infantry)
Snipers (Sharpshooters)
General (Faction Commander)
     Austria-Hungary
Infantry
Deutsches Infanterie (German Infantry)
Üngarisches Infanterie (Hungarian Infantry)
Bosniaks (Bosnian Volunteers)
Czechisches Infanterie (Czechoslovakian Infantry)
Landwehr (Conscripts)
Landesschuetzen/Kaiserjägers (Mountain Troops)
Support
Feld-kannone (Field Artillery)
Schweren Maschinengewehr (Heavy Gun Support)
Üngarisches Hussaren (Hungarian Light Cavalry)
Specialists
Pionieren (Engineers)
Sanitätsdienst (Medics)
Niederösterreichisches Mariner (Lower Austrian Marines)
Wachtposten (Armored Sentries)
Scharfschützen (Snipers)
General (Faction Commander)
Italy
Coming soon!
     Russian Empire
Coming soon!
     Ottoman Empire
Coming soon!
     United States
Coming soon!
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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2014, 06:38:03 am »
There are a lot of issues before something like this can even be considered.

- Why are marines underneath Specialist rather than Infantry? The Fusilier Marins were more "regular" than Tirailleurs Sénégalais. Same thing with all the other faction marines.
- Why do Ghurkas replace British snipers? Ghurkas are not sniper units, scoped rifles were not part of their regular gear. I imagine they had even less access to scoped rifles than regular British infantry. This is inconsistent with how the other factions have normal snipers.
- Trench Raiders only fought at night and primarily used melee weapons, while they did sometimes carry grenades and pistols, they were only for emergencies. Such a unit is inappropriate for IE battles.
- Spahis Marocains composed a very very tiny fraction of France's cavalry. Why should they represent all of France's cavalry when most French cav were actual regular cavalry?
- Australian units were never designated as Stormtroopers. It doesn't matter what the Germans called them or if they were used in assault purposes.

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2014, 06:46:29 am »
No chefs I see. An army fights on it stomach; therefore chefs should be #1 specialist.
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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2014, 09:17:22 am »
What is the point of having a german unit in the Austrian faction while you have an entire faction for Germany? Rather have standard Austrian Infantry.

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2014, 02:09:08 pm »
There are a lot of issues before something like this can even be considered.

- Why are marines underneath Specialist rather than Infantry? The Fusilier Marins were more "regular" than Tirailleurs Sénégalais. Same thing with all the other faction marines.
- Why do Ghurkas replace British snipers? Ghurkas are not sniper units, scoped rifles were not part of their regular gear. I imagine they had even less access to scoped rifles than regular British infantry. This is inconsistent with how the other factions have normal snipers.
- Trench Raiders only fought at night and primarily used melee weapons, while they did sometimes carry grenades and pistols, they were only for emergencies. Such a unit is inappropriate for IE battles.
- Spahis Marocains composed a very very tiny fraction of France's cavalry. Why should they represent all of France's cavalry when most French cav were actual regular cavalry?
- Australian units were never designated as Stormtroopers. It doesn't matter what the Germans called them or if they were used in assault purposes.

Well, at least you're correcting, I can make changes, of course, as I did say I'd like to be corrected.

What is the point of having a german unit in the Austrian faction while you have an entire faction for Germany? Rather have standard Austrian Infantry.

Because Standard "Austrian" Infantry were German.

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2014, 02:57:45 pm »
Dunno austrian and german are not the same thing. So no the Austrian inf regiment dot not consist of german but of austrian.

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2014, 03:07:36 pm »
They're still German... Idk why you guys are arguing this...

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2014, 03:13:56 pm »
Why not turn this into a general suggested faction units thread? Broadens the ideas being put forward as well as encouraging conversation.

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2014, 03:24:08 pm »
That's what this is. I put down a base for the rosters, I want people to correct and add to it.

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2014, 03:28:34 pm »
No austrian and german are not the same thing. There whas probably some german engaged on the austrian army, but you can't say they are ALL german. He regiment hired on hen Austrian-Hungarian region is Austrian-Hugarian and not German.

PS : Then why you can't accept the fact austrian and german are not the same thing ?

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2014, 03:31:29 pm »
I didn't say they are. I said there were German troops. There were Germans, Lower Austrian, Hungarian, Croats, Serbs, Romanians, Tiroleans, Bosnians, Upper Austrians, etc. in German service. They were still all lead by German officers, albeit a few Hungarian officers in some corps and regiments.

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2014, 03:59:39 pm »
I think it would be more appropriate to have the Canadians be the Commonwealth "sturmtruppen"

"THE CANADIANS WERE MARKED OUT AS STORM TROOPS; FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE WAR THEY WERE BROUGHT IN TO HEAD THE ASSAULT IN ONE GREAT BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER. WHENEVER THE GERMANS FOUND THE CANADIAN CORPS COMING INTO THE LINE THEY PREPARED FOR THE WORST."

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2014, 05:29:28 pm »
I really love this list, good work Petschie.

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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2014, 06:09:02 pm »
For GB you have British inf Scottish and Irish inf but no Welsh or Guard inf. also if you have Canadian and Australian troops you might as well add all the other Commonwealth troops such as the Indians, African etc etc.
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Re: Suggested faction unit rosters list (My ideas)!
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2014, 07:45:45 pm »
No austrian and german are not the same thing. There whas probably some german engaged on the austrian army, but you can't say they are ALL german. He regiment hired on hen Austrian-Hungarian region is Austrian-Hugarian and not German.

PS : Then why you can't accept the fact austrian and german are not the same thing ?
In these days, austrians saw themself more german as now, as they were speaking german. because of this, the german speaking Units where called german.
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